I just found the following quote from Israel's Channel 2 TV reporter, Roni Daniel -- he's on the scene as I type.
He's not a fan of the right, or the settlers...but this is what he had to say about the police violence:
"השוטרים מכים מכות רצופות את המתנחלים , המהלומות מיותרות הם מכים רק כדי לפרוק זעם אין בכך כל צורך זה מיותר. יש צורך לבחון את התנהלות המשטרה על הגגות . האלימות כאן מיותרת "
MK Effi Eitam was wounded by the police....he's on his way for a CT now at Hadassah hospital.
MK Arye Eldad's arm was broken by the police...and he fainted.
MDA reports close to 200 settlers wounded...There are reports that a policeman is wounded as well.
I'm not going to write about Amona's housing...or whether or not Jews have a right to build in Israel...or if the settlers are right or wrong...or if the police are doing what they need to do or not.
UPDATED with more horrible pictures.
I will write, that Ehud Olmert and the Israeli government have succeeded in bringing about this terrible situation to its current state. They wanted violence, they want the world to see our pain, they wanted this Chilul Hashem for all to see.
And it hurts so bad.
UPDATED: I wrote this into a comment, and then decided it should be here as well.
The tragedy of the situation is the demonization of the settlers and the movement to settle the land.
This isn't a game of improving one's quality of life, owning a bigger home or ruling over another people.
The Jews of Amona and their supporters are motivated exclusively by a deep passion and love for Eretz Yisrael.
Their entire ideology and way of life is being targeted by the Israeli government and media as the enemy of the state.
Its tragic that Olmert is alienating one of Israel's most dedicated population segments.
Instead of learning from this summer, he's exacerbating the issues and rallying the media and people of Israel against their own brothers.
And that hurts the most.
NB: I'm not posting the Manila posting today...it's all done. Hopefully tomorrow.
Wherever I am, my blog turns towards Eretz Yisrael
terrible story.
ReplyDeleteBoy am I glad not to be involved anymore. I think Olmert is only doing this to help get more votes for Kadima. Your undecided Jew will see what the "terrible" settlers are doing and only want to help sqaush us like bugs.
Being a "Settler" in the last decade has definately been considered worse than being a terrorist.
When I saw the second picture, it instantly reminded me of the video clip of lynching in Ramalla in October of 2000. All that's needed for complete similarity would be the smiling and the bloody hands of the policemen to completely top it off.
ReplyDeleteI want to post a comment along the lines of how this is obviously in the hands of HaShem and for reasons that we cannot understand, this is happening. And even though deep down I know that must be the truth, it's hard to accept it when you see it happening.
ReplyDeleteThe governments doing an excellent hasbara job, CBS reported this morning that some settlers and some police were injured. Making the damage seem about equal.
ReplyDeleteIt's a sickness.
Jerusalem Cop's last sentence is sad but true for much of the Left.
Olmert's refusal of the compromise worked out this morning is scandalous. All of this violence could have been avoided.
ReplyDeleteIt is time for the so-called "centrists" to wake up and protest.
We can't do it from the right - because our complaints are waved off - we are the "right wing fanatics" after all.
GT: I'd rather leave any similarities you found between the 2 pictures as far away from each other as possible.
ReplyDeleteThe tragedy of the situation is the demonization of the settlers and the movement to settle the land.
This isn't a game of improving one's quality of life, owning a bigger home or ruling over another people.
The Jews of Amona and their supporters are motivated exclusively by a deep passion and love for Eretz Yisrael.
Their entire idealogy and way of life is being targeted by the Israeli government and media as the enemy of the state.
Its tragic that Olmert is targeting and alienating one of Israel's most dedicated population segments.
Instead of learning from this summer, he's exacerbating the issues and rallying the media and people of Israel against their own brothers.
Jameel, I fully share in how very distressing this is, and feel only much pain and sadness seeing these horrific pictures of Jews fighting Jews. Especially if this is due to government orders of excessive force. That cannot fail to sicken anyone.
ReplyDeleteI would venture, however, that Olmert is not the only leader who hasn't learned from the traumatic experiences of the summer.
Why does ynet make it sound like the poor police are being brutalized by the demonic crazed 15 year olds? Is this the type of attitude going around by most of the media? http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3209509,00.html
ReplyDeleteIt is a sad day.
ReplyDeleteDo you think there is a chance that the left will be sickened by the violence used by the army, and begin to think?
ReplyDeleteThese "blame" comments are not helping, people. We're all sickened, whatever side of the spectrum.
ReplyDeleteWow. :(
ReplyDeletewoe to mine eyes
ReplyDeleteke'chol ha'goyim bais israel
Sinas Chinum under the guise of politics. Power corrupts. My heart aches and my mind reels. What has become of us?!?!?!
ReplyDeleteJameel... due to the populatiry of writing about Israel I will hold off on my Aliyah post until later... just letting you know.
An important point that everyone is missing has to do with, not the new rules to the game, but rather the new game itself.
ReplyDeleteHas anyone considered that Olmert actually expects that beating up Jewish children instead of Hamas is going to win him more seats in the next Knesset.
He and his advisors firmly believe that a brutal hand against settlers, not terrorists is what will win him more points.
That is a very scary point.
Past polls indicated that he was smoothly sailing in to win 40+ mandates, and all he had to do was NOT rock the boat, yet here he goes completely overboard.
What does this say about the average Israeli?
News Flash: Olmert and Hamas sign treaty. Open season on all settlers.
ReplyDeleteNews Flash: Olmert and Hamas sign treaty. Open season on all settlers.
ReplyDeleteAfter the Hitnatkut, I felt as I had been slapped in the face. I cried for days, nights, as Im sure many others did.
ReplyDeleteBut this?
This atrocity?
Jews not only expelling other Jews but wounding them as well?
How can I continue to hope for such a broken nation?
After the Hitnatkut, I felt as I had been slapped in the face. I cried for days, nights, as Im sure many others did.
ReplyDeleteBut this?
This atrocity?
Jews not only expelling other Jews but wounding them as well?
How can I continue to hope for such a broken nation?
must gum addict brings up an interesting point..."this is obviously in the hands of HaShem and for reasons that we cannot understand, this is happening."
ReplyDeletehowever, we were all given free will. why some choose to use it for evil and not good, is beyond me. israel is our homeland, we need to start acting like it. why give the world more reason to criticize us?
and also, now that hamas is in power, why should olmert feel compelled to give ANYTHING to the "palestinians" at this point?
aarrrgggh.
I don't know what to say. I just hate seeing a Jew against a Jew. I mean, there are all sorts of arguments you can make about various aspects of this situation, but right now my response is purely emotional. I'll leave it up to lawmakers to reason. : (
ReplyDeleteA guest blogger makes a point on my blog about the division of Israel: http://joesettler.blogspot.com/2006/02/guest-blogger-rechavam.html
ReplyDeleteThe boys name is: Yechiam ben Rachel
Painful to the eyes.
ReplyDeleteAnd painful to the soul.
Heartbreaking. Appalling. Grotesque. Terrifying.
ReplyDeleteWhat words could capture the horror of these scenes?
Do the blind chazerim in the GOI truly believe that this crazed campaign of expulsion can lead to any good end for Israel?
Is it their perception, those well-dressed and seemingly ever-ignorant MKs and their ilk, that there are not enough voices clamoring for the destruction of Jews and Judaism? Do they truly feel that by joining the new sly and pernicious chorus of "I'm not anti-Jew; I'm anti-Settler!" that they are not aligning themselves with what is worst in the world - and with what proudly states its intention to crush Israel in stone and in spirit?
Have these shameless "leaders", who sent the Yasamnikim, Mishmar HaGvul, Mishtarah, and every other available agent of force (this during a time when the Land is LITERALLY surrounded by dangerous and overtly hostile foes, who enter the country and get away with endless attempts - sometimes successful - to murder Jews) to unhome and brutalize their fellow Israelis, bought YET AGAIN the delusion that peace with hate-filled mass murderers can be acheived through "diplomacy"?
Where but from G-d can the strength come from to face this evil forthrightly?
Refuah Shlemah to everyone who was hurt standing up for Am, Torah, V'Eretz, and also to the dangerously misguided agents of the government who failed to see the wrongness of this action and so perpetrated ugly crimes. As they heal and refresh, may the righteous residents return to their struggle filled with determination and belief, and may the soldiers and officers soon find their way to know what is right that they may serve us and G-d better than they did today.
I read a sad comment in the JPost from a gentleman who will be making yeridah with his wife after recent events (read: HAMAS' new legitimization). May they be well; may many many others find the ferocity and faith to stay where they are in Eretz Yisrael.
And may we all speedily merit redemption - though to be truthful, looking at these horrible images once again, it seems as though we have a long way to go.
Chazak, Yisrael! Am Yisrael Chai!
Kol Tuv
6PO
I am sick.
ReplyDeleteThE WORST PART i SAW WERE THE HORSES PLOWING IN AND THEIR RIDERS SWINGING CLUBS.
For this I came on aliyah?
aND THEY WILL GET AWAY WITH IT--THE MAJORITY in Israel don't care.-and as Jameel stated we are demonized.
Jameel, just caught up on your last several great posts. And you're right, what's happening in Amona is terrible. I was watching some of the footage yesterday and was shocked at the police's behavior. Obviously they have a very hard job to do there, but some of their actions were definitely over the line- I understand that Effi Eitam wasn't even on a rooftop, he was just standing on the ground. Why was there a need to crack his head open?
ReplyDeleteTerrible, terrible stuff.
I just feel like crying after seeing those pictures. Has it really come to this? So, so, wrong on so many levels.
ReplyDeleteThere are so many things that need to be said. Will post about it later.
ReplyDeleteTill then, here are even more pictures.
http://rotter.net/forum/scoops1/7408.shtml
However, the video last night on TV was far worse.
Jameel, my husband is going to post his reactions later, but I have to say I'm very dissapointed in you. I haven't heard from you in a while. I wanted to update you on my sister-in-law's situation since it's a complete mess, and I know I can talk to you about it. Secondly, after all we've been through (;-p), I'm not on your blogroll? That's just sad. I thought we had a better relationship than that.
ReplyDelete-OC
Elchonon; Actually, you are a hundred percent correct.
ReplyDeleteI was at work that day, but will try to go in the future.
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