tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post116186911007252808..comments2024-03-27T07:01:13.725+02:00Comments on The Muqata: Proteczia. Israel’s Vitamin P.Jameel @ The Muqatahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-83764805950246730552009-12-29T17:33:42.220+02:002009-12-29T17:33:42.220+02:00Interesting stuff. I've written a short piece ...Interesting stuff. I've written a short piece about protektzia, which can be found here; http://adamehad2.blogspot.com/2009/04/24page.htmlAdam Ehadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05213623660238077376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1162385726318731752006-11-01T14:55:00.000+02:002006-11-01T14:55:00.000+02:00I didn't even realize how much proteczia I had bui...I didn't even realize how much proteczia I had built up until I arrived in the country this year. Suddenly, everyone was friends with my relatives by some odd coincidence...<BR/><BR/>And to think that some people don't appreciate family!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1162379167309869772006-11-01T13:06:00.000+02:002006-11-01T13:06:00.000+02:00What a fabulous idea. So that's how its done. Gee,...What a fabulous idea. So that's how its done. Gee, no wonder my dad and I were in the dark when we made aliyah.<BR/><BR/>That bank story just brought up memories from 20 years ago. I see times haven't changed in Israel afterall.... Is the Window to Our Soulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04510255608269038123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1162214293659342982006-10-30T15:18:00.000+02:002006-10-30T15:18:00.000+02:00lol... i think bec's got a point there :)lol... i think bec's got a point there :)Sarah Likes Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15055831838215589183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1162181902426635912006-10-30T06:18:00.000+02:002006-10-30T06:18:00.000+02:00hmmm.... the ultimate in proteczia?the jblogospher...hmmm.... the ultimate in proteczia?<BR/>the jblogosphere. why else would us future olim spend time blogging?<BR/>:Dbechttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16146699715760197131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1162139759491496152006-10-29T18:35:00.000+02:002006-10-29T18:35:00.000+02:00wbm: Those groups are support groups and self-help...wbm: Those groups are support groups and self-help groups. There's a world of difference between an organization designed to help you traverse the beaurocracy and not drown, vs. getting the job of CEO of a large corporation simply because you were in fighter pilot school with the other board members.<BR/><BR/>True there are small American circles but in a country of 6 million people, but all of IDT, JVP and NDS does not make for very impressive protektzia.JoeSettlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01232647820807408898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1162136584554775592006-10-29T17:43:00.000+02:002006-10-29T17:43:00.000+02:00WBM: You can't compare the proteczia of olim to th...WBM: You can't compare the proteczia of olim to that of tzabarim. So we have NBN? Big deal...that helps with our own limited world. And the same applies for yishuvim, they are still small, limited worlds compared to the rest of the country.Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1162121170382689912006-10-29T13:26:00.000+02:002006-10-29T13:26:00.000+02:00BTW My husband serves in Dover Tzahal in the reser...BTW My husband serves in Dover Tzahal in the reserves. He is a volunteer. It's true that it took three YEARS for him to transfer from tanks to Dover Tzahal (by which time he'd mustered out, so he HAD to volunteer), but he's in. We also have a neighbor who is in, who was on TV a LOT this past war, and who AFAIK does not have proteckzia but he's really good. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1162117369403707392006-10-29T12:22:00.000+02:002006-10-29T12:22:00.000+02:00This is a replay.This is a replay.rockofgalileehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07939653236475167491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1162117135171415812006-10-29T12:18:00.000+02:002006-10-29T12:18:00.000+02:00Anonymous 11.13 PM:What stations were you watching...Anonymous 11.13 PM:<BR/><BR/>What stations were you watching this summer? Dover Tzahal is CRAWLING with Olim, all who run rings around the generals- one of the best is an ulpan-mate of mine.<BR/><BR/>Jameel- I personally am blessed with lots of Proteczia in many spheres: But being English, I'm also reticent to use it!tafka PPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17166682612446711810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1162116530433849712006-10-29T12:08:00.000+02:002006-10-29T12:08:00.000+02:00C'mon Jameel, we American olim have our own protec...C'mon Jameel, we American olim have our own protectzia - with other American olim! AACI, Tehilla, Nefesh B'Nefesh, etc. helps. Living in a yishuv for awhile also helps - people here help each other a lot. I think it is a matter of how long you live in the country more than anything else. The more people you know, the better it is.westbankmamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07175250198028829889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1162110010769170712006-10-29T11:20:00.000+02:002006-10-29T11:20:00.000+02:00I think there are different kinds of proteckzia, a...I think there are different kinds of proteckzia, and olim have it too. Take, for example, a certain large Jerusalem high tech company ...<BR/>However I make it my business to be friendly to bus drivers and it really pays off. I've been dropped off between stops and even taken out of the driver's way, solely because I talk to them, ask them how they are, and they remember me. Is this proteckzia or or menchlichkeit?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1162088346616067462006-10-29T04:19:00.000+02:002006-10-29T04:19:00.000+02:00excellent.Our group has just received venture capi...excellent.Our group has just received venture capital to develop artificial vitamin p in our laboratory.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1162064236123132152006-10-28T21:37:00.000+02:002006-10-28T21:37:00.000+02:00Mmmm .. could I take the tax breaks AND the protek...Mmmm .. could I take the tax breaks AND the protektzia coupons?Sabzi Aashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16093287839845658396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1162057645599107522006-10-28T19:47:00.000+02:002006-10-28T19:47:00.000+02:00Very funny post -- I'm going to have to start usin...Very funny post -- I'm going to have to start using that word myself so that when people don't understand me I can explain!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1161950351034385532006-10-27T13:59:00.000+02:002006-10-27T13:59:00.000+02:00haha that is hysterical, jameel. brilliantly funny...haha that is hysterical, jameel. brilliantly funny <BR/>(necessity IS the mother of invention..)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1161940968184986912006-10-27T11:22:00.000+02:002006-10-27T11:22:00.000+02:00ymedad--Thanks! :-)ymedad--Thanks! :-)Fern @ Life on the Balconyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00723669902505470885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1161938499705429452006-10-27T10:41:00.000+02:002006-10-27T10:41:00.000+02:00Very creative, Jameel! I dont have protectzia stor...Very creative, Jameel! <BR/>I dont have protectzia stories - I just try and charm people at the time.. <BR/>lolthe only way i knowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15527442357164907984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1161936247708303072006-10-27T10:04:00.000+02:002006-10-27T10:04:00.000+02:00PronouncedPro as in professionalTek as in neckTzee...Pronounced<BR/><BR/>Pro as in professional<BR/>Tek as in neck<BR/>Tzee as in, er, you know, the Hebrew letter Tzadee with a long e<BR/>and<BR/>Ya as in Da, Russian for 'yes'<BR/><BR/>Okay, Fern?YMedadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14333122797414935958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1161910077522058652006-10-27T02:47:00.000+02:002006-10-27T02:47:00.000+02:00that was a great post!it's so true- it's all about...that was a great post!<BR/>it's so true- it's all about who you know....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1161904995626377022006-10-27T01:23:00.000+02:002006-10-27T01:23:00.000+02:00i don't have any israel-proteczia stories that i c...i don't have any israel-proteczia stories that i can think of but that sort of thing happens in every community. it's nice to have relatives and friends who are well known so you can name drop!Sarah Likes Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15055831838215589183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1161903014283854652006-10-27T00:50:00.000+02:002006-10-27T00:50:00.000+02:00Hilarious post and great idea Jameel. I just have ...Hilarious post and great idea Jameel. I just have one question, how is proteczia pronounced? I'm a bit of a word nerd...Fern @ Life on the Balconyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00723669902505470885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1161897222765799372006-10-26T23:13:00.000+02:002006-10-26T23:13:00.000+02:00Well done! You pretty much hit the nail on the he...Well done! You pretty much hit the nail on the head with this post.<BR/>I don't think people realize how deeply entrenched the whole protexia culture is in Israel and how far reaching the ramifications are. One quick example: To be an IDF Spokesperson (Dover Tzahal) is one of the most coveted and sought after positions in the army. But, the people representing the IDF (and Israel) in the media when we need them the most (like during the recent war) are not telegenic, well spoken professionals with polish media training. They are children of privilege, or members of the well connected elite. It's no wonder that Israel lost the PR war over the summer during the war. I know 100 Anglo olim who are more qualified than the childlike hack the IDF put on FoxNews and CNN.<BR/>Lastly, I have a friend who served in the elite 8200 intelligence unit. In a conversation before the war, he once mentioned to me that his unit was a veritable "Who's Who" of children of the Israeli elite. If people with the right qualifications were serving in that unit, perhaps the entire war could have been avoided.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1161896069318240582006-10-26T22:54:00.000+02:002006-10-26T22:54:00.000+02:00This is real protekzia:Lindenstrauss finds evidenc...This is real protekzia:<BR/><BR/>Lindenstrauss finds evidence for investigating PM<BR/>By Yuval Yoaz, Haaretz Correspondent<BR/><BR/>State Comptroller Micha Lindenstrauss said in a letter submitted Wednesday to Attourney General Menahem Mazuz that he estimates there is sufficient evidence for a criminal investigation into Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's involvement in the sale of the controlling interest of Bank Leumi.<BR/><BR/>It is now up to Mazuz to decide whether to order an investigation into the affair.<BR/><BR/>An internal opinion in the State Prosecutor's Office recommends that a criminal investigation against Olmert be opened without delay. He is suspected of having acted to further the interests of two businessmen friends from abroad while serving as acting finance minister in 2005.<BR/><BR/>Olmert is suspected of interfering with the tender for the controlling interest in Bank Leumi to benefit businessmen S. Daniel Abraham and Frank Lowy. Olmert is also suspected of a conflict of interest through a law firm headed by Prof. Yossi Gross, Olmert's father-in-law, who dealt with Lowy's affairs in Israel.<BR/><BR/>In addition, Abraham had previously bought Olmert's Jerusalem home, at a price that was allegedly too high, while letting Olmert continue to live there and pay relatively low rent. It is thought that Abraham is one of the consortiums of private investors trying to receive approval from the Bank of Israel to purchase control of Bank Leumi, along with the group of Cerberus Capital Management and Gabriel Capital Management, which won the tender in November 2005.<BR/><BR/>Olmert's relationship with both businessmen is suspected of being tainted by bribery, fraud and breach of trust.<BR/><BR/>Lindenstrauss told Mazuz about three months ago that the interim findings of the comptroller's report indicate possible criminal behavior, and asked whether he should stop his investigation so a police investigation can begin.YMedadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14333122797414935958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-1161894238699014142006-10-26T22:23:00.000+02:002006-10-26T22:23:00.000+02:00a. the whole object of being Jewish and at home i...a. the whole object of being Jewish and at home is to have friends.<BR/><BR/>b. and as the saying goes, if you have friends, who needs protekzia?<BR/><BR/>c. think of it as a social process and then it isn't so bad.YMedadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14333122797414935958noreply@blogger.com