tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post2046504532694989591..comments2024-03-10T08:13:34.023+02:00Comments on The Muqata: Attitude; The Oleh's Best FriendJameel @ The Muqatahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-69454060779790936412008-08-06T08:18:00.000+03:002008-08-06T08:18:00.000+03:00Almost 6 years ke'h ken yirbu!I am both tthough, I...Almost 6 years ke'h ken yirbu!<BR/><BR/>I am both tthough, I still never buy cloths in israel, import my shampoo, body wash etc..<BR/><BR/>Bezek is easy to deal with, I go to the bezek store by tachana.<BR/><BR/>I still prefer the US for many things, paypal, my bank's flexibility, ebay and internet commerce c'mon amazon!<BR/><BR/>Was easy getting a drivers license here.. the list goes on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-65489212388494057892008-08-05T01:23:00.000+03:002008-08-05T01:23:00.000+03:0011 Years! ...as of 26 of the Fourth Month (Tammuz)...11 Years! ...as of 26 of the Fourth Month (Tammuz)Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-72529189851489523782008-08-04T11:12:00.000+03:002008-08-04T11:12:00.000+03:00I'm with Baila -- tell it like it is, and no one o...I'm with Baila -- tell it like it is, and no one owes anyone any excuses. <BR/><BR/>Come if you really want to, and be sure to show up with that extra smidgeon of excitement / motivation / patience / creativity / ability to laugh at yourself and everything around you, 'cause if you don't, then living in Israel might not be the best solution for you right now.<BR/><BR/>But if you do get yourself here, it's well worth it.<BR/><BR/>Fourteen years and counting... <BR/><BR/>ALNA Living Nadneydahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14365370597831368062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-59430951006150935062008-08-02T23:39:00.000+03:002008-08-02T23:39:00.000+03:00B"HMy thoughts on this here:Jameel's AttitudeB"H<BR/><BR/>My thoughts on this here:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://esseragaroth.blogspot.com/2008/07/jameels-attitude.html" REL="nofollow">Jameel's Attitude</A>Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-72930170843764626742008-08-01T10:38:00.000+03:002008-08-01T10:38:00.000+03:00HmphI was expecting some personal info at the end-...Hmph<BR/>I was expecting some personal info at the end- contact (phone, address) and other (credit card number)-as an offer of help to all the olim.the sabrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07134516234799909775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-897215916568591402008-08-01T07:00:00.000+03:002008-08-01T07:00:00.000+03:00Hey, that almost sounded like what I wrote on Trep...Hey, that almost sounded like what I wrote on Trep's blog. Hmmm,guess remembering life in the 80's in Israel,really hits home with appreciating what's available today.... Is the Window to Our Soulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04510255608269038123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-91443463925746275312008-07-31T07:38:00.000+03:002008-07-31T07:38:00.000+03:00Oh, and another thing. When we were moving last y...Oh, and another thing. When we were moving last year, a guy in our neighborhood who bought our dining room set, said to me, "I could never make Aliyah, with that kind of government in power". I said, "Listen, you don't have to justify to me why you are not making Aliyah. I didn't ask you. But what your are saying is a load of crap and you know it." I have alot more respect for my friends who say they are not making Aliyah because they just don't want to, then for "ideological" reasons.Bailahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14115498582378133552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-83419502215690520002008-07-31T07:34:00.000+03:002008-07-31T07:34:00.000+03:00I can't believe I missed this one...what is most d...I can't believe I missed this one...what is most difficult for me is feeling "foreign"--and I the ink that was a surprise for me. I find it hard to maneuver the beaurocracy, not because I don't speak the language, my Hebrew is pretty good, but because I just am unfamiliar with HOW things are done over here. It's given me a whole new perspective on my parent's experience as immigrants in America, where they didn't have the language or the financial resources that we , Baruch Hashem, do...<BR/><BR/>I agree that attitude (and sense of humor) is key.Bailahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14115498582378133552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-2666171689548536952008-07-31T01:55:00.000+03:002008-07-31T01:55:00.000+03:00while i agree that attitude is important, from exp...while i agree that attitude is important, from experience i can say that it is not the be all and end all of a successful aliyah. sadly, i know many people who made aliyah and left, myself included, and not once did i encounter any of these people not giving practically all of themselves over to staying in israel. in the end, most chose between israel and mental health, israel and family stability and shalom bayis, israel and the ability to pay their bills. the people i know sent CVs all over the country and were prepared to move wherever they had to. others had to choose between commuting to the states for work (not a good option for every family) and moving back to have a stable home situation. in my case, parnassa, adjustment for the kids, and health issues ultimately prevailed over ideology. <BR/>i'd say that yes, attitude is important, but it's not THE reason why some aliyot don't work out.bechttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16146699715760197131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-85712894807088040902008-07-30T22:33:00.000+03:002008-07-30T22:33:00.000+03:0013 years next week!13 years next week!Leah Goodmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16546935038863589318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-36628785636561656412008-07-30T22:27:00.000+03:002008-07-30T22:27:00.000+03:00Thanks for the linky love!Chayyei SarahThanks for the linky love!<BR/><BR/>Chayyei SarahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-17294760141715788282008-07-30T17:53:00.000+03:002008-07-30T17:53:00.000+03:00I formulated the Moron's rules of living in Israel...I formulated the Moron's rules of living in Israel years ago:<BR/><BR/>Rule #1: You don't know the rules of the game.<BR/><BR/>Rule #2: If you should figure out the rules you will discover that they are constructed such that you cannot win.<BR/><BR/>Rule #3: If you should find yourself winning then you can expect that the rules will be suddenly, without warning, and even retroactively changed such that you are now back to rule #1.Gee a Moronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00049652650047347640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-51704405163012404042008-07-30T17:10:00.000+03:002008-07-30T17:10:00.000+03:00Thanks for this post. Your message proves true not...Thanks for this post. Your message proves true not just for aliyah but for any challenge in life. :)Erachethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00660802321998349072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-32638961286608581032008-07-30T16:46:00.000+03:002008-07-30T16:46:00.000+03:00TRH: works every time ;-)YSRM: Mazal Tov! Happy Al...TRH: works every time ;-)<BR/><BR/>YSRM: Mazal Tov! Happy Aliyanniversary!<BR/><BR/>YMedad: Aren't we all.Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-62747564356835117162008-07-30T16:40:00.000+03:002008-07-30T16:40:00.000+03:00No, Rafi, the real purpose was to remind me (as th...No, Rafi, the real purpose was to remind me (as though there was a chance I would forget) that when I get annoyed about <I>my</I> government and society, <I>I</I> can't end with an upbeat couple of paragraphs about kedushat ha'aretz and our yerushah.The Rebbetzin's Husbandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14977193945074906534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-9718051630039099522008-07-30T16:38:00.000+03:002008-07-30T16:38:00.000+03:00I'm here 38 years and still trying to figure it ou...I'm here 38 years and still trying to figure it out.YMedadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14333122797414935958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-70714588161217244952008-07-30T16:30:00.000+03:002008-07-30T16:30:00.000+03:00Attitude, thankfulness for what you do have, awe a...Attitude, thankfulness for what you do have, awe and appreciation for actually being in Eretz Hakodesh (watch Xians in Israel for the 1st time), and FLEXIBILITY when what you think is a good and holy plan doesn't work.<BR/><BR/>I'm here 21 years this Shabbat. Yay!Ye'he Sh'mey Raba Mevorachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10880916203103730085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-49130866901446199352008-07-30T16:18:00.000+03:002008-07-30T16:18:00.000+03:00Thanks Rafi.Your point of surreptitiously mentioni...Thanks Rafi.<BR/><BR/>Your point of surreptitiously mentioning GK was only partially correct -- it was also meant to subtly remind our readers what an awful government we have...Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-75014234062907831732008-07-30T16:12:00.000+03:002008-07-30T16:12:00.000+03:00great post. But we all know the real purpose was t...great post. But we all know the real purpose was to mention the plight of the evacuees of GK without doing it too overtly... :-)<BR/><BR/>attitude is the greatest necessity. I remember when I was in yeshiva, someone sat down at my table at breakfast and poured himself a bowl of cereal. he then ate it while complaining the whole time that the cornflakes were not crunchy enough.<BR/><BR/>If you are looking to complain, there will always be something to complain about, no matter what you are doing or where you are... But if you are looking to enjoy and succeed, have a good attitude and you will brush off all the minor (or not so minor) inconveniences...Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.com