tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post2048468569389193502..comments2024-03-27T07:01:13.725+02:00Comments on The Muqata: Modi'in residents try to keep away Arabs with fee to public parkJameel @ The Muqatahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-59076782985996478412011-09-05T16:45:43.778+03:002011-09-05T16:45:43.778+03:00Hi Friar Yid:
Solutions include;
- Big Signs (a...Hi Friar Yid:<br /><br />Solutions include; <br /><br />- Big Signs (also in Yiddish) advising guests to keep the park clean, with the threats of heavy fines.<br /><br />- Park police<br /><br />- If nothing else works, a few park police rangers with skimpy outfits will be enough to keep away most Chareidim.Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-171842811489472872011-09-05T03:27:27.582+03:002011-09-05T03:27:27.582+03:00I am generally opposed to public parks charging fe...I am generally opposed to public parks charging fees at all, and all the more so when the fee is openly designed to keep certain groups from using it.<br /><br />At the same time, I wonder what solutions Jameel or JoeSettler would offer to keep the park clean and pleasant. Dialogue with the groups coming regularly from out of town? Park police presence to enforce public standards?<br /><br />Just wondering...Friar Yid (not Shlita)https://www.blogger.com/profile/10311439778319103094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-74703194872249622992011-09-04T21:10:03.737+03:002011-09-04T21:10:03.737+03:00Ha! You sure missed with that one, didn't you?...Ha! You sure missed with that one, didn't you??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-38574905751353060542011-09-04T14:42:35.020+03:002011-09-04T14:42:35.020+03:00Raanana park didn't charge entrance fees two w...Raanana park didn't charge entrance fees two weeks ago for us non-Raanana visitors, including the fun area built for special needs kids that has signs saying 'friends/members only'. <br /><br />There is a parking lot that charges seven days a week, but there is also a dirt lot across the street.joshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-27534404878795159472011-09-01T21:59:10.712+03:002011-09-01T21:59:10.712+03:00The funny part is that a supposedly serious newspa...The funny part is that a supposedly serious newspaper wrote a story about a Facebook page with 60 likes, and blogs (who should know better) keep harping on it. Is a Facebook page with 60 likes really newsworthy? That kind of reporting is what I would expect from the Jewish Week.Shmildanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-82310855532454986882011-09-01T20:50:19.483+03:002011-09-01T20:50:19.483+03:00Thank you for sharing.
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This is your h...Interesting and funny(?) contrast:<br /><br />This is your headline for this story:<br />"Modi'in residents try to keep away Arabs with fee to public park"<br /><br />But the headline on Yeshiva World News for this same story is: "Modiāin Residents Try To Keep Away Chareidim With Fee To Public Park"<br /><br />Arabs? Or Chareidim? Or are both undesirable?LI Readernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-57059092230593668532011-09-01T08:16:37.870+03:002011-09-01T08:16:37.870+03:00I have no problem with a park not charging an entr...I have no problem with a park not charging an entrance fee to local residents who pay taxes to upkeep it, and only charging visitors, I have a problem when the problem is expressed as "keeping out the chareidim", my family is large, is not messy or dirty and that is the stereotype they are expressing here and that is ugly.Orange and Blacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-13046387451512440052011-09-01T07:35:12.295+03:002011-09-01T07:35:12.295+03:00The park in Afula recently started charging entran...The park in Afula recently started charging entrance fees to non-residents, because Arabs from Nazareth and other surrounding villages kept coming en masse and leaving behind garbage.Eliyahuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12683147094841143218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-84820348678766205252011-08-31T22:43:42.256+03:002011-08-31T22:43:42.256+03:00Park Raanana charges (or at least used to charge) ...Park Raanana charges (or at least used to charge) entrance fees for non-Raanana residents. I don't think Park Petach Tikva charges a fee (yet).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-43079803101794435082011-08-31T22:12:17.863+03:002011-08-31T22:12:17.863+03:00Risa: Sorry Jameel,
It's not a very friendly ...Risa: <i>Sorry Jameel,<br />It's not a very friendly thing to do. I don't know if there are precedents for charging admission to public parks but on the face of it I would be against it, whether it is to keep the Arabs or the Charedim out. Just because Ha'aretz wrote it doesn't make it wrong.</i><br /><br />Risa, I don't understand what you're saying. You say that "just because Ha'aretz wrote it doesn't make it wrong". I presume that by this, you mean that Modi'in's park policy is <i>not</i> wrong (and that you disagree with Jameel, who thinks that their policy <i>is</i> wrong). But you also say that "it's not a very friendly thing to do", and that you "would be against it". This sounds like you <i>do</i> think Modi'in's park policy is wrong, (in which case you <i>agree</i> with Jameel).<br /><br />Which one is it?Confusednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-4760432498678439042011-08-31T20:58:40.232+03:002011-08-31T20:58:40.232+03:00While I agree that Haaretz wouldn't write such...While I agree that Haaretz wouldn't write such a thing about Arabs, but in essence, they're right. Just because the nearby Chareidi municipalities do not have such parks, that does not mean that the nearby secular municipalities should shoulder that burden.<br /><br />While I'm not sure that an entrance fee should be charged; however I would recommend charging for parking around the park, or, allowing for annual parking pass for outsiders.<br /><br />The income from tickets / parking passes would discourage the outside use of the park and bring revenue at the same time.Critically Observant Jewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17281220943536673356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-24945371687120864522011-08-31T20:20:54.925+03:002011-08-31T20:20:54.925+03:00Sorry Jameel,
It's not a very friendly thing ...Sorry Jameel, <br />It's not a very friendly thing to do. I don't know if there are precedents for charging admission to public parks but on the face of it I would be against it, whether it is to keep the Arabs or the Charedim out. Just because Ha'aretz wrote it doesn't make it wrong.Risa Tzoharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05012097234847651866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-7576678030033607952011-08-31T19:00:48.695+03:002011-08-31T19:00:48.695+03:00I live in modi'in, and while this is clearly r...I live in modi'in, and while this is clearly racist, it's also a real problem. The park was created using local taxes, and we are very proud of it. But "visitors" come, and don't show a great deal of derech eretz. The park is left in bad shape, and several locals get harassed (yes actually harassed). <br /><br />Charging for the park would be a double bonus. It would keep out people who just see it as a cheap destination and it would also raise fund for maintenance and improvements.Justinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-12438182909974943172011-08-31T16:11:45.331+03:002011-08-31T16:11:45.331+03:00I was just in that park with my brother and his ch...I was just in that park with my brother and his children (who live in a different area and are "chareidim") and the park seemed very well-kept and clean.... (And we made sure to thrw our garbabge out :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com