tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post3376021295995230281..comments2024-03-27T07:01:13.725+02:00Comments on The Muqata: Hallel on Yom Ha'atzmautJameel @ The Muqatahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-43656122145154078652007-04-27T08:34:00.000+03:002007-04-27T08:34:00.000+03:00elchonon is crazyelchonon is crazyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-32031442954246889162007-04-26T05:57:00.000+03:002007-04-26T05:57:00.000+03:00B"H Um,...Arabs stood to annihilate us. They fai...B"H Um,...Arabs stood to annihilate us. They failed. Jews live relative safety and comfort in Eress Yisrael. End of discussion. Hallel has nothing to do with the state or the regime. www.machonshilo.org.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-18047724916121241262007-04-25T22:44:00.000+03:002007-04-25T22:44:00.000+03:00Jameel: I believe some, but not all poskim agree w...Jameel: I believe some, but not all poskim agree with that interpretation of the gemara in Shabbos. Check out Gil's list in the link provided in the post.Eliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15979263918394127210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-83462141038952521552007-04-25T16:41:00.000+03:002007-04-25T16:41:00.000+03:00Elie: The point was that without a bracha, it's no...Elie: The point was that without a bracha, it's not "Hallel" but just Tehillim.<BR/><BR/>And Tehillim can be said at every single occasion.Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-83987016801026038462007-04-25T16:36:00.000+03:002007-04-25T16:36:00.000+03:00Without a bracha, which is what was done where i d...<I> Without a bracha, which is what was done where i davened this morning, is really just tehillim.</I><BR/><BR/>Not exactly. The gemara (Shabbos 118b) states that one may not say Hallel on just any occasion. It doesn't limit this to just the beracha. There is also a lot of controversy in the gemara over even saying Hallel on Rosh Chodesh.Eliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15979263918394127210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-68245105165832194482007-04-25T08:53:00.000+03:002007-04-25T08:53:00.000+03:00HH- thank you!!! Outstanding post!HH- thank you!!! Outstanding post!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-26181450550366900102007-04-25T00:41:00.000+03:002007-04-25T00:41:00.000+03:00Without a bracha, which is what was done where i d...Without a bracha, which is what was done where i davened this morning, is really just tehillim.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-36157176149080978102007-04-24T19:33:00.000+03:002007-04-24T19:33:00.000+03:00HH, nice dvar torah! I posted on this subject toda...HH, nice dvar torah! I <A HREF="http://elie-expo.blogspot.com/2007/04/hallel-al-hanissim-and-yom-haatzmaut.html" REL="nofollow">posted</A> on this subject today too, with a somewhat different conclusion. Eliu v'eilu, as they say.<BR/><BR/>Happy holiday, Jameel and all.Eliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15979263918394127210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-7141790952966254832007-04-24T18:14:00.000+03:002007-04-24T18:14:00.000+03:00HH, excellent post, well made points. It is too ba...HH, excellent post, well made points. It is too bad you had to prove that even when you are totally clear and lucid, there are always people (*ahemelchononahem*) who can totally misunderstand the point. :)<BR/><BR/>I also like your use of non-mainstream smileys :P<BR/><BR/>Anyway, again, thank you for this post, and may you continue to blog for the betterment of Klal Yisrael!<BR/><BR/>Chag Sameach!!!mevaseretzionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10118487743478084355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-11562943679102099652007-04-24T18:00:00.000+03:002007-04-24T18:00:00.000+03:00At my college hillel not only did we say hallel, b...At my college hillel not only did we say hallel, but men were given a heter to shave. Nice to know why, thanks for the post!Anniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10434918343302976597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-37287392626890942692007-04-24T17:02:00.000+03:002007-04-24T17:02:00.000+03:00Sing and waive your flag all you want but the stat...<I>Sing and waive your flag all you want but the state has done more than any one in history to destroy judaism</I><BR/><BR/>Did you even READ the post?Holy Hyraxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17704030181702087485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-26413652893769205772007-04-24T16:26:00.000+03:002007-04-24T16:26:00.000+03:00Forget Halell. It's Al Hanissim time.Forget Halell. It's <A HREF="http://myrightword.blogspot.com/2007/04/forget-hallel-its-al-hanissim.html" REL="nofollow">Al Hanissim</A> time.YMedadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14333122797414935958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-34093118962932439292007-04-24T10:59:00.000+03:002007-04-24T10:59:00.000+03:00gil: what complete garbage of a post and absolute ...gil: what complete garbage of a post and absolute disrespect to most gedolei hador... so yes they opposed the state, so the states founding "proves them wrong"?!?!?<BR/><BR/>You owe a apology to most of this generations tzadikim including my rebbe's of chabad! history didnt prove anything! in fact it proved them right on the evil's of medinat yisrael..<BR/><BR/>Sing and waive your flag all you want but the state has done more than any one in history to destroy judaism.<BR/><BR/>For anyone that truely knows history, even if you are a die hard zionist, to say hallel on yom atzamut is apikorsus! if you want to thank hashem for the nes that occured, say it on the day of millatary victory.. have a seudat hoda'a instead of a picnic...<BR/><BR/>Ben gurion was not going to declare indapendance, he only did so because irgun and lechi were going to.elchononhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10888640978845262748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-61748943312748971812007-04-24T04:19:00.000+03:002007-04-24T04:19:00.000+03:00I think part of it is that even before the establi...I think part of it is that even before the establishment of the State of Israel, there was a strong rabbinic voice opposing such a state. When history proved them wrong, some accepted the reality while others refuse to budge regardless of the facts on the ground (sound reminiscent of another issue?). So they started calling everything a "Ma'aseh Satan" rather than admit that they were wrong.Gil Studenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12776831546758682126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-32504891975964931662007-04-24T01:42:00.000+03:002007-04-24T01:42:00.000+03:00I was surprised to see that while we did the extra...I was surprised to see that while we did the extra stuff for YH, we did not say hallel tonight in my shul and I don't yet know why and frankly did not want to stick around to hear. The rabbi had to take one of his kids to the doctor and even though we usually have order, for some reason the hazan was bombarded with what to say and what not. We usually say it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-60919211525244010532007-04-24T01:02:00.000+03:002007-04-24T01:02:00.000+03:00a teacher in my high school once said that the que...a teacher in my high school once said that the question of saying Hallel on Yom Ha‘atzma’ut is simple — is this זה היום עשה ה' נגילה ונשמחה בו, or not? If it is, say Hallel!Steg (dos iz nit der šteg)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07694556690190505030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-60079320345363611912007-04-24T00:47:00.000+03:002007-04-24T00:47:00.000+03:00HH, You have totally outdone yourself.I'm honored ...HH, You have totally outdone yourself.<BR/><BR/>I'm honored you have posted this on my blog, and may we all be zocheh to say Halell in the rebuilt Beit HaMikdash this Yom Yerushalayim.Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.com