tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post3574923681271811642..comments2024-03-10T08:13:34.023+02:00Comments on The Muqata: Aliyah is like MarriageJameel @ The Muqatahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-47275588419950354442010-01-05T00:56:44.723+02:002010-01-05T00:56:44.723+02:00In the Kovna getto, the Slabodka mashgiach, Rb Avr...In the Kovna getto, the Slabodka mashgiach, Rb Avrohom Grodzenski hy"d formulated 12 points which he felt people are lax in keeping and which he made his talmidim promise they would keep if they survivied the war.<br /><br />One of them was yishuv eretz yisrael.Wondering Jewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-75126428838901636562010-01-02T23:30:31.746+02:002010-01-02T23:30:31.746+02:00We made aliyah a few years ago. Ulpan is tough; li...We made aliyah a few years ago. Ulpan is tough; living on the economy is a bit harder because our finances aren't as solid as in the Old Country; getting around in babytalk Hebraish is problematic.<br /><br />Know what? I love it. I'm sorry I didn't make the move earlier. I have no desire to leave. As a friend of mine, who made aliyah the same year, said, "The flavor here is different." It really is. <br /><br />I'm home.aliyah06https://www.blogger.com/profile/12570980519532246704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-15914620724376043602010-01-02T19:50:44.782+02:002010-01-02T19:50:44.782+02:00I grew up in Australia and will be making aliyah i...I grew up in Australia and will be making aliyah in the very near future. <br /><br />For the last 12 years there have been programs in Melbourne and Sydney run by the Sochnut (I think?) sending Bnot Sherut Leumi to serve in the Diaspora.<br /><br /> These girls come for a year and make a lasting impression on the school's students and the community's approach to Israel. They radiate with the 'taste of israel' and run informal classes and programs throughout the year.<br /><br />Moreover, they volunteer as madrichot in the various youth movements appropriate to their program. <br /><br />In forming and strengthening the students' Israel connection from such an early age, the warmth and love they have for their country touches the entire community. Here's mystery. Here's connection. Here's some marriages and subsequent aliyot along the way. <br /><br />Thank goodness the Australian Jewish community has very strong ties to Israel - it is assumed that most, after graduating high school, spend some time in Israel either on year-long programs or Taglit. Am yisrael chai - even from the end of the world.<br /><br />-S.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-49182112144926059272009-12-31T09:22:50.830+02:002009-12-31T09:22:50.830+02:00THE ARMY!!!THE ARMY!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-2850537643496109172009-12-30T23:38:53.375+02:002009-12-30T23:38:53.375+02:00What you wrote about educating young Jews to love ...What you wrote about educating young Jews to love of Israel -- I would be delighted if my kids got that here, in Israel.<br /><br />"But more than that, every Jewish school (Elementary and High School) should have charismatic Israeli teachers teach teaching there (on rotating limited one year Shlichuts) teaching about Israel – not Hebrew – Israel. Israel’s history, its goals, how it’s relevant to the Jewish people, and most importantly, why Israel is such a wonderful place and of course Aliyah.<br /><br />Create a sense of mystery for these young students. Create a sense of interest. Create a sense of possibility and challenge. Create a connection."Ilanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13870568775480176690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-23001118717235249822009-12-30T19:48:46.971+02:002009-12-30T19:48:46.971+02:00Seth- Dump her.
Seriously, have your future Mothe...Seth- Dump her.<br /><br />Seriously, have your future Mother-in-Law talk to Jameel, maybe he can convince her to come.<br /><br />On the other hand, do you want your M-i-L 6000 miles away, or 6 blocks away...?<br /><br />'nuff said.Not putting my name to this onenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-3965823881179924752009-12-30T19:48:45.787+02:002009-12-30T19:48:45.787+02:00Seth- Dump her.
Seriously, have your future Mothe...Seth- Dump her.<br /><br />Seriously, have your future Mother-in-Law talk to Jameel, maybe he can convince her to come.<br /><br />On the other hand, do you want your M-i-L 6000 miles away, or 6 blocks away...?<br /><br />'nuff said.Not putting my name to this onenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-85931750572653075732009-12-30T18:45:23.119+02:002009-12-30T18:45:23.119+02:00Well, my parents made aliyah in their 60s. Of cour...Well, my parents made aliyah in their 60s. Of course, they are atypical. <br /><br />And, I just made aliyah :D<br /><br />But, it's true. If my husband had wanted to live in the US, I don't think I would have pushed to go. Not so many can make the total life change that it requires. <br /><br />And, many are desperately afraid of learning how to speak Hebrew. Despite the fact that most know English, there are MANY who don't speak a word of it. You need basic Hebrew to get around. And Ulpan is tough!!<br /><br />Kudos to all who 'follow the dream'.nmf #7https://www.blogger.com/profile/02930286227301917330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-58431791772155641292009-12-30T17:45:13.603+02:002009-12-30T17:45:13.603+02:00LFD: It was mostly the "frum" Jews of Ba...<i>LFD: It was mostly the "frum" Jews of Bavel who refused to return during Bayit Sheini -- the yeshiva world decided that Pumpadita would be the new Jerusalem. (Which is why they even tried start Kiddush HaChodesh in Bavel).</i><br /><br />Pumbadita became a center of Jewish learning EIGHT HUNDRED YEARS after Ezra and Nechemiah. Babylonian Jews were not tempted by Pumbadita any more than R' Yehudah Halevi had to decide between making aliyah in the 12th century and learning in Lakewood. In between Ezra/Nechemiah and the amoraim of Bavel, for many hundreds of years the center of religious Jewry was in Eretz Yisrael, and works such as the Mishna were the result. It was the non-frum Jews who ignored the prophets telling them they should return and build Bayit Sheni.Shlomonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-60239320392047160212009-12-30T17:34:17.363+02:002009-12-30T17:34:17.363+02:00I am a young (22) American Jew who has been to Isr...I am a young (22) American Jew who has been to Israel many times in my life, even living in the country for over a year. It would seem as if Aliyah was a destiny of mine, yet now I look and it seems impossible. I love Israel. I would love to move my life there. So what is the problem? My fiance, whom I met while living in Israel, wants to live near her mother in the US. This doesn't look like its going to change any time soon. I don't think I am alone in this problem, however I don't see any reasonable solution either.Sethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-4572602494378487842009-12-30T17:20:46.223+02:002009-12-30T17:20:46.223+02:00Some Israeli yeshivot encourage aliyah.
Some are ...Some Israeli yeshivot encourage aliyah.<br /><br />Some are apathetic.<br /><br />And some, their rabbanim leave, make yerida, and then move to YU...and discourage aliya.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-11492946585285778572009-12-30T16:41:23.331+02:002009-12-30T16:41:23.331+02:00Speaking of Yeshivas, did the Israeli Yeshivas pus...Speaking of Yeshivas, did the Israeli Yeshivas push Aliyah? Did they teach the positive commandments regarding living in and conquering the Land?<br /><br />Most of the boys that come and learn in Israel for a year after high school never even consider Aliyah!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-63444516216633980192009-12-30T16:00:31.230+02:002009-12-30T16:00:31.230+02:00LFD: It was mostly the "frum" Jews of Ba...LFD: It was mostly the "frum" Jews of Bavel who refused to return during Bayit Sheini -- the yeshiva world decided that Pumpadita would be the new Jerusalem. (Which is why they even tried start Kiddush HaChodesh in Bavel).<br /><br />I have my doubts whether the Yeshivot in the US will want to come to EY for Bayit Shlishi.<br /><br />I'm surprised the Ramban hasn't been banned in Lakewood yet, for daring to write that the only reason mitzvot are observed in chutz la'aretz is preparation/chinuch for doing them in Eretz Yisrael.<br /><br />And yes, Eim HaBanim Semeicha is a great book, also available in English as well.<br /><br />You need to kill your own personal Melech Cheshbon in order to make aliya. And that's not such a simple task, as he gets bigger and more powerful every passing day.Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-87838627973530617702009-12-30T15:45:58.923+02:002009-12-30T15:45:58.923+02:00You're right,of course, but...
Why didn't ...You're right,of course, but...<br />Why didn't everyone come back by Bayit Sheini? I really don't know, but I've been taught that if everyone did, we wouldn't need Bayit Shleshi. Could you imagine the Rosh Yeshivos of Lakewood, Philly, Chaim Berlin, Mir, and so on giving up their power base for the greater good of the Jewish people by having a mass move to Israel? There is a reason by blog is called Lakewood Falling Down. Yes, there is a great deal of learning and wonderful stuff that comes from these places, but the concept of Israel is ignored. There is a sefer called Eim Habanim Semaicha by Rav Yisachar Teichtal Z’L. Briefly, he wrote this book while on the run and hiding from the Nazis. The main idea is proof after proof of why we all need to go to Israel, and he felt that what was happening was because we have lost the idea of loving and settling the land. He was murdered by Ukrainians and Nazis in a train boxcar for protesting against Ukrainian prisoners stealing food from Jews. It was a profound read for me. Will I make Aliyah because of it? I don't know. Like you point out, we get settled and comfortable. My family and Mrs. LFD's family are all here. But it is a moving sefer. Great Post ! HEY! You can't see it but the word verification I'm being asked for is SPIRIT. Somebody is trying to tell me something...Lakewood Falling Downhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14483392684657880997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-36962683523075749572009-12-30T15:38:54.308+02:002009-12-30T15:38:54.308+02:00"But in the US, anti-Semitism is low (though ..."But in the US, anti-Semitism is low (though rising)..."<br /><br />Actually, the ADL recently reported that anti-semitism in America is down 3% from the year 2007 to 2009.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-83653554670216139632009-12-30T12:57:21.202+02:002009-12-30T12:57:21.202+02:00beautiful and insightful. i'm a fan.
www.met...beautiful and insightful. i'm a fan. <br /><br />www.metroimma.comJulie Lehmann Weismanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04743980357535034258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-15657342697437903762009-12-30T10:50:16.309+02:002009-12-30T10:50:16.309+02:00Calculated Risk:
"When people are asked why ...Calculated Risk:<br /><br />"When people are asked why they are unwilling to settle in Eretz Yisrael right now, they have all types of cheshbonot - calculations - as to why now is not the time. <br /><br />One says his chesbon is that his children need to finish school or college; another's chesbon is that he has to vest his pension, and so on. <br /><br />If we look in the Torah, though, we will see that before the Jewish people entered Eretz Yisrael, they first killed the King of Chesbon. <br /><br />Once the King of Chesbon is killed, the decision to move to Eretz Yisrael becomes easy."Rabbi Avraham Yitzhak HaKohen Kooknoreply@blogger.com