tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post4606082585712219615..comments2024-03-27T07:01:13.725+02:00Comments on The Muqata: Sunday, May 20th. On the brink?Jameel @ The Muqatahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-46270925774764320972007-05-24T04:12:00.000+03:002007-05-24T04:12:00.000+03:00B"H At first I agreed with you and disagreed w/Joe...B"H At first I agreed with you and disagreed w/Joe. But, now I'm guessing that this may simply be a debate over semantics, especially with Joe's last comment, in which he makes a good point about reciprocity. On the other hand, regarding the kids in Sderoth, I suppose that to them if it looks like a war, sounds like a war, smells like a war, and tastes like a war (dust, etc.), then it must be a war.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-71674051212785069822007-05-20T19:06:00.000+03:002007-05-20T19:06:00.000+03:00An international force to protect Israel? I've got...An international force to protect Israel? I've got a good name for it - <BR/>the UN. Common, you've/they've got to be kidding, and you know it, of course. The Keeper of Israel isn't <BR/>an international consortium of Israel <BR/>haters/bashers.<BR/>-SchvachSchvachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07052885350566210171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-71469219825362433642007-05-20T18:23:00.000+03:002007-05-20T18:23:00.000+03:00You can call it what you want, but until we fight ...You can call it what you want, but until we fight back it ain't a war, just another attempt at genocide.JoeSettlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01232647820807408898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-32880547627900656882007-05-20T15:59:00.000+03:002007-05-20T15:59:00.000+03:00Rafi: 1. Skirmish? That's a big word for little k...Rafi: <BR/><BR/>1. Skirmish? That's a big word for little kids in Sederot. War is a much easier war to understand when a Qassam hits your house.<BR/><BR/>2. It may not be scaring Olmert, but it's affect is ALSO on Peretz and Gabi Ashkenzai (who also publically says ground troups are not the solution now). BTW - I'm not blaming the Winograd report, Im just saying that the government's inaction has to do with the report.<BR/><BR/>JoeSettler: Are you like those people who kept calling Oslo a "peace" process, as the buses kept blowing up day after day?Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-56268811422331225742007-05-20T15:39:00.000+03:002007-05-20T15:39:00.000+03:00Jameel - sorry but I have to disagree on 2 points....Jameel - sorry but I have to disagree on 2 points. <BR/>1. the war. I think we are in a skirmish not a war. I do not think it will escalate that much yet.<BR/>2. the Winograd report. As I wrote a few days ago, the claim that the Winograd report is scaring olmert from making any moves is a lie. He did not do anything before winograd, so to claim it is now winograd's fault is passing the buck. Olmert never did anythign to protect sderot, and the fact that he is not now is not winograds fault.Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-26581619218583515922007-05-20T13:06:00.000+03:002007-05-20T13:06:00.000+03:00Sorry Jameel, but I am staying out on my limb here...Sorry Jameel, but I am staying out on my limb here.<BR/><BR/>I think the government is too afraid of the (next) Winnograd report, and as nothing besides Gabi Ashkenazi has changed on top, and they are still as psychologically unprepared for this war as before, and they will dig in their heals and do anything they can to stay out of a real war.<BR/><BR/>Furthermore, as I asked on my blog, do they have a reasonable goal for the war (minimizing rocket strikes at best) that can be achieved without perceived undesired results(having to liberate Gaza)?<BR/><BR/>I say no and as a result they will continue with minimalist air strikes and a tank operation or two, but no real ground force intervention with the goal of liberating Gaza from the terrorists.<BR/><BR/>They are certainly hoping to force UN PeaceKeeper intervention which is bad for Israel in the long-term (but good for Olmert & Peretz in the short term).<BR/><BR/>Sorry again, but one side freely hitting us while the other side mostly turns the other cheek is not a war, you can call it neuvo-Cristianity or passively attempted Genocide, but a "war" actually requires that we begin to actively fight back - at a minimum at a proportional level to how hard we are being hit.JoeSettlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01232647820807408898noreply@blogger.com