tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post5796938655536304581..comments2024-03-27T07:01:13.725+02:00Comments on The Muqata: Uncomfortable ReadingJameel @ The Muqatahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-43178264604027461902009-12-24T09:33:06.796+02:002009-12-24T09:33:06.796+02:00no at oleh: That's probably the dumbest commen...no at oleh: That's probably the dumbest comment I've seen.<br /><br />Tell me, have you canceled your plans to keep kosher when you found out about Rubashkins?<br /><br />Maybe you should cancel your tzedaka plans after finding out about the Spinka Rebbe?<br /><br />Or Maybe you should avoid Jews altogether since R' Leib Tropper from Monday is soliciting in exchange for giyur?<br /><br />Bad things happen everywhere...you need to be aware of them and dont stick your head in the sand.<br /><br />Michael: I dont have a good answer for you. I'll ask some policemen I know for advice (some of the decent policemen).Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-74908283488813046862009-12-24T03:59:14.627+02:002009-12-24T03:59:14.627+02:00I just cancelled my aliya plans. What a truly sic...I just cancelled my aliya plans. What a truly sick society Israel has created. People get the government agencies they deserve.not an olehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-5507694785119342932009-12-24T00:33:30.573+02:002009-12-24T00:33:30.573+02:00Advising kids to avoid the police makes sense (unf...Advising kids to avoid the police makes sense (unfortunately), but that advise wouldn't have helped the kid in the story who was arrested for a minor offence and then beaten.<br /><br />Should my kid have a run-in with the law, what should I tell him to do?<br />cooperate? shout and demand a lawyer? call the media? take photos of each officer he encounters and their ID number and send them to me, or someone else?<br /><br />What should the kid in the JPost story have done after his arrest?<br />Is there anything that he or his parents could have done which would have prevented the abuse?<br />Who could the father have called? The Minister for Police? The Media? The mayor of his town? - who is out there looking out for us little guys?Michael Sedleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02684514303911193073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-30563867177410028302009-12-23T21:13:41.860+02:002009-12-23T21:13:41.860+02:00It's a problem in the system of government tha...It's a problem in the system of government that affects a lot of things in Israel. <br /><br />The police are national police (as opposed to what you have in the states where each city has its own police force, the state has its troopers, and the national government has the office of the ag). That in itself is not bad, as they should still be held accountable, except for the fact that on a national politician's to-do list, they rank extremely low. After the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the economy, the divides in Israeli society, etc etc etc, who's going to vote a national politician in or out based on the conduct of the police?Jeremynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-90535939497499467752009-12-23T16:02:03.757+02:002009-12-23T16:02:03.757+02:00Michael Sedley: As my kids approach teenage years...Michael Sedley: <i>As my kids approach teenage years it makes me wonder what advise I should give them if they ever have to deal with the Police.</i><br /><br />Jameel: <i>Tell them to stay away from the police -- they are not here "to protect and serve."</i><br /><br />That's what I tell my kids, too: Avoid the police as much as is reasonably possible. I have witnessed more than enough Israeli police brutality against helpless, innocent people, and I therefore urge my kids to steer clear of them.Lurkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02712938121915827845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-44514603177794650512009-12-23T15:20:06.559+02:002009-12-23T15:20:06.559+02:00Michael: Tell them to stay away from the police --...Michael: Tell them to stay away from the police -- they are not here "to protect and serve."<br /><br />Treppenwitz wrote about the disturbing article <a href="http://www.treppenwitz.com/2009/12/how-is-it.html" rel="nofollow">yesterday</a>.<br /><br />Worth a read.Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-17404116558285321972009-12-23T15:02:28.019+02:002009-12-23T15:02:28.019+02:00I saw the Jerusalem Post article yesterday.
It dis...I saw the Jerusalem Post article yesterday.<br />It disturbed me greatly.<br /><br />I am sure that there is police and prison brutality in other countries, but something as shocking as that article really shook me.<br /><br />As my kids approach teenage years it makes me wonder what advise I should give them if they ever have to deal with the Police.Michael Sedleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02684514303911193073noreply@blogger.com