tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post6568570968011018284..comments2024-03-27T07:01:13.725+02:00Comments on The Muqata: Think twice before you honk!Jameel @ The Muqatahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-55642049497761617572008-04-23T17:57:00.000+03:002008-04-23T17:57:00.000+03:00Jameel, this is why I don't allow anon. comments o...Jameel, this is why I don't allow anon. comments on my blog and generally speaking, I do not allow those without email addresses accessible. IOW, I don't generally allow "hit-and-runs."<BR/><BR/>Abutor,<BR/><BR/>משנה אבות ב,ה<BR/><BR/> הלל אומר,...ואל תאמר דבר שאי אפשר לשמוע וסופו להישמע....<BR/><BR/>The damage has been done.<BR/><BR/>What makes you such an expert? You talked to some? Oh, wow. Such an expert.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-13218359359210631532008-04-23T15:58:00.000+03:002008-04-23T15:58:00.000+03:00I would like to add a clarification on my words ab...I would like to add a clarification on my words about 'hilltop settlers'. I am *not* referring to the majority of the settlers who live in Yishuvim throughout Yesha. I am referring to the very small number of people who live on 'hilltops'. <BR/><BR/>The people who live there are some of the nicest people you will meet (provided that you are not an arab or left-winger). They really are - and I also think that they are doing something very important for Am Yisrael. We need people to settle the hilltops. They are doing a fine job of settling the land and preventing arabs from stealing it.<BR/><BR/>However, trying to discuss issues with them doesn't get too far, as they don't quite understand nuances. As I wrote, things are mostly black and white in their eyes, and sometimes they will do things "l'hachis" - to get the police, arabs and shabak riled up at them. I don't think that they are intellectuals (you can go talk to them yourself - don't take my word for it), and many of them subscribe to the idea that simple-mindedness is ideal (as they understand the teachings of R' Nachman). As such, trying to discuss the nuances of politics will get you to:<BR/>This is a "Memsheles Sh'mad" and that's it. No more discussion. Obviously, it is frustrating to talk to such people, and I've resorted to simply not discussing issues of any value with them - just telling stories and the such. They like it, I like it, and we all get along.<BR/><BR/>Obviously, I am making a generalization here, and I am sure that you will be able to find many people who are not like this who live on hilltops (OK, not too many). Additionally, you can find mental-midgets throughout the cities of Israel and Yesha as well - not only on hilltops.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-75433728016858028432008-04-23T15:41:00.000+03:002008-04-23T15:41:00.000+03:00abutor, Is that all you can come with?I suggest yo...abutor, Is that all you can come with?<BR/><BR/>I suggest you check the definition of what lashon hara actually is.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-13797548918253030852008-04-23T15:39:00.000+03:002008-04-23T15:39:00.000+03:00Ben-Yehudah,Thanks for the chizuk to my words.Ben-Yehudah,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the chizuk to my words.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-14271625503365714012008-04-22T23:07:00.000+03:002008-04-22T23:07:00.000+03:00B"H Jameel, as a pragmatic matter, personally if ...B"H Jameel, as a pragmatic matter, personally if I were to decide to volunteer to work in a particular organization, I believe I should accept upon myself its policies.<BR/><BR/>If I don't like an organization's policies, then I can choose to refrain from volunteering, of try to make a new organization.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-31016793747496322512008-04-22T23:04:00.000+03:002008-04-22T23:04:00.000+03:00B"HI think Jameel should remove abutor's lashon ha...B"H<BR/><BR/>I think Jameel should remove abutor's lashon hara.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-75684049902444044082008-04-22T22:41:00.000+03:002008-04-22T22:41:00.000+03:00LoZ: could you please clarify: the red crescent yo...LoZ: <I>could you please clarify: the red crescent you have been referring to, is it israeli or palestinian?</I><BR/><BR/>The Palestinian Red Credscent is the "Magen David Adom" or "Red Cross" equivalent found in Moslem countries. Resulting from the Oslo accords, the Palestinians now have the Red Crescent organization for medical emergency transport.<BR/><BR/>Israel has "MDA" which is staffed by both Jewish and Moslem (and Christian and Druze) volunteers. As I wrote earlier; even Hatzala has non-Jewish volunteers, as does ZAKA.<BR/><BR/>BTW: if you think this issue went off on a tangent, just wait till I bring up organ donations in Israel...Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-89232415970372091842008-04-22T16:44:00.000+03:002008-04-22T16:44:00.000+03:00Kol hakavod to Jameel and his fellow volunteers fo...Kol hakavod to Jameel and his fellow volunteers for their incredible efforts to save lives!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-54516318442250943622008-04-22T12:46:00.000+03:002008-04-22T12:46:00.000+03:00Ben-Yehudah,Let's say that you died from your inju...Ben-Yehudah,<BR/><BR/>Let's say that you died from your injuries due to refusing help from the arab. (I'm not referring to a case in which the arab might try to hasten your death - rather, in a case that they are genuinely trying to help).<BR/><BR/>Would you be considered a "m'abed atzmo ladaas"? <BR/><BR/>The Torah teached us וחי בהם - not to find some high falutin' 'morals' that don't show up anywhere in the Torah and then see yourself as a hero.<BR/><BR/>I also don't have anything to do with the arabs - I don't shop by them, I don't fix my car by them, and I try not to have any of my money go to them. However, there are some cases in which we need to make use of what we have - and not cut off our nose in spite of our face.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, I know the 'hilltop settlers' very well. Some very close relatives of mine (1st degree) live on hilltops, and I've gotten to know the people. They are absolutely wonderful people who are willing to be moser nefesh for the Land of Israel. However, they are not the brightest bunch, and tend to see things in black and white. Fortunately or unfortunately, the world has lots of shades of grey.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-61126245478259073212008-04-22T07:11:00.000+03:002008-04-22T07:11:00.000+03:00How many bags were you trying to fit in the trunk?...How many bags were you trying to fit in the trunk???<BR/><BR/>Moadim l'simcha.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-29918560943835154222008-04-22T06:47:00.000+03:002008-04-22T06:47:00.000+03:00Jameelcould you please clarify: the red crescent y...Jameel<BR/><BR/>could you please clarify: the red crescent you have been referring to, is it israeli or palestinian?<BR/><BR/>moadim le-simhahLion of Zionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10342299133387602141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-71332416960116291792008-04-21T23:22:00.000+03:002008-04-21T23:22:00.000+03:00Yes. And, I have.Yes. And, I have.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-66496955741157544372008-04-21T22:02:00.000+03:002008-04-21T22:02:00.000+03:00Elchonon and Ben-Yehuda:Look, this is my blog, the...Elchonon and Ben-Yehuda:<BR/><BR/>Look, this is my blog, these are the rabbanim that I hold by, and these are the rules I follow as a member of Magen David Adom and Hatzala. When you volunteer for these organizations, I'd be thrilled to know how to reconcile your idealogical viewpoints with MDA protocol.<BR/><BR/>And, imagine for a second if you will, a G-d forbid accident on Road 60. Would you refuse help 100% from an Arab who was offering it to you? Or a paramedic from the Red Crescent?<BR/><BR/>It's very easy to preach from where you're typing -- but when bad happens, and people are willing to help -- you accept whatever help you can get; no matter who they are. period.<BR/><BR/>Moadim LSimcha!Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-77819615520221441172008-04-21T08:42:00.000+03:002008-04-21T08:42:00.000+03:00Abutor,Incorrect, Tosefos sanhedrin 22b argues the...Abutor,<BR/>Incorrect, Tosefos sanhedrin 22b argues the same.<BR/><BR/>Rashba, yevamot 46a. Ritvah, bava metzia 73 argue a different point.<BR/><BR/>Rambam merely says (hilchos gezeila 5:18) that dina demalchuta dina applies only when the king is accepted by the inhabitants of the land who have placed their trust in him as their lord and consented to be his servants..<BR/><BR/>Hardly the government here today har har har<BR/><BR/>That would be skipping the argument between rav and shmuel (sandgedrin 22b) rav claims that shmuel hanavi did not actualy grant the power just it was used to scare the jews.<BR/><BR/>Fine.. anyways.. then theres a whole spanking new set of halachot in regards to evil government..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-20557148284605736552008-04-21T00:07:00.000+03:002008-04-21T00:07:00.000+03:00abutor, honestly. My Tibi YSh"W comment was sarca...abutor, honestly. My Tibi YSh"W comment was sarcastic. Also, I was not the one to make the Ran comment.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-27972271535911051472008-04-21T00:04:00.000+03:002008-04-21T00:04:00.000+03:00ben-yehudah:1) Tibi was thrown out of his internsh...ben-yehudah:<BR/><BR/>1) Tibi was thrown out of his internship - does a Dr. who has not finished his training qualify as a "pretty good OB/GYN"?<BR/><BR/>2) The Ran is *not* the general view of the Poskim. The Rambam and others argue with him outright.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-50571856212483515382008-04-18T12:15:00.000+03:002008-04-18T12:15:00.000+03:00B"HPost bombing in Jerusalem, the Arabs knew bette...B"H<BR/><BR/>Post bombing in Jerusalem, the Arabs knew better to come near me.<BR/><BR/>You wouldn't expect a female rape victim to be treated by a male doctor if a woman was available, and not without her consent.<BR/><BR/>Research shows that gender in therapist-client relationship has little significance except in cases of violence when the prefered gender of therapist is the same as client.<BR/><BR/>I'm gonna hypothesize that similar reactions may be true with Arabs and Jews in bombings. You could be the exception Gila, but maybe you don't appear to be a threat to them yet.<BR/><BR/>The Arab orderly knew better and introduced himself by a Hebrew name. The Arab ENT who checked me came in stealth and really hurt me. He caught me off guard then left quickly. I couldn't do anything.<BR/><BR/>It is nothing less than piqu'ah nefesh to disallow Arabs to treat people. And there is no excuse to do so without patient consent.<BR/><BR/>Yes, I'd much rather lay there than risk being permanently mutilated by an Arab.<BR/><BR/>Gila, would you let MK Tibi deliver your baby? They say he's a pretty good OB/GYN.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-25484963469682867702008-04-18T09:42:00.000+03:002008-04-18T09:42:00.000+03:00Hilarious story!In respect to the whole "treating ...Hilarious story!<BR/><BR/>In respect to the whole "treating Arabs etc" debate--will limit my contribution to noting that a fair number of the excellent and dedicated doctors, nurses and hospital staff who treated me post-bombing, when I had cancer and in my recent round of surgeries have been Arab. And for some reason, they have not seemed to worry overmuch as to whether or not I was an enemy of their people. (Remember--this worldview runs both ways). One of them was particularly nice to my relatives, to the extent that my relatives asked me to get in touch with her and extend my thanks (which I did). <BR/><BR/>For that matter, it is entirely possible that some of the Magen David Adom personnel who helped me at the bombing scene were non-Jews. <BR/><BR/>Hag Sameach v'KasherGilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13246089571573457394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-26316813349643175362008-04-18T02:04:00.000+03:002008-04-18T02:04:00.000+03:00Dtc, see ran on nedarin 22b where he rules that di...Dtc, see ran on nedarin 22b where he rules that dina demalchuta dina does NOT aooky in eretz yisrael.. only malchut beit david can compel you to follow laws and only when it does not go against halacha.<BR/><BR/>Reason being, because in every where else in the world, if you dont like thaw laws.. leave! but one cannot say that regarding eretz yisrael..<BR/><BR/>Rambam has a differing opinion regarding taxed and such..<BR/><BR/>There are other poskim that agree with the ran.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-37856835839110762422008-04-17T21:18:00.000+03:002008-04-17T21:18:00.000+03:00DCM, I agree that it is an interesting argument. ...DCM, I agree that it is an interesting argument. Who's talking about politics? Just sharing my experience with how things tend to work out.<BR/><BR/>I agree that politics is irrelevant. Unfortunately, you and I seem to be two of the minority in the universe you recognize this, AND try to apply it. Unfortunately, others do not always see that they are bringing politics into it. <BR/><BR/>Corporations? I have no doubt that the issue of "taxes" as expressed by Haza"l are relevant and extendable to any number of issues in Hu"L.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-37822486790688946142008-04-17T20:18:00.000+03:002008-04-17T20:18:00.000+03:00Ben Yehuda,I see that you don't have any dealings...Ben Yehuda,<BR/><BR/>I see that you don't have any dealings with any corporations anywhere in the world..<BR/><BR/>I guess that you bought your house via Chazaka as well...<BR/><BR/>Dina DeMalchusa Dina can apply across Choshen Mishpat. The sugya is simply a springboard. (there are many good sefarim out there who discuss the issue...)<BR/><BR/>In terms of in E"Y, yes, the question is viewed by the Rabbanut as "since the current law of the land is not Torah law, what aspects of DDM"D apply if at all?" It's an interesting argument, with many practical issues at stake.<BR/><BR/>I'll ignore the remarks about politics as they aren't relevant here at all.DTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13452671110209029524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-62065119893180246652008-04-17T20:14:00.000+03:002008-04-17T20:14:00.000+03:00abbi --is assault and battery actually a crime her...abbi --<BR/><BR/>is assault and battery actually a crime here?<BR/><BR/>chag sameach!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-31702320678418841882008-04-17T18:41:00.000+03:002008-04-17T18:41:00.000+03:00Pronounced ah-noose.Now I know why you have all th...Pronounced ah-noose.<BR/><BR/>Now I know why you have all these massive amounts of hits on your blog.<BR/><BR/>You allow anonymous commenting.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-22077105436621368682008-04-17T17:21:00.001+03:002008-04-17T17:21:00.001+03:00hahahhahahahahahahhahahahhhahahahahhahahahahahahha<BR/>hahahhhahaAMSHINOVERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07680072149053035110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-74912401582799981202008-04-17T17:21:00.000+03:002008-04-17T17:21:00.000+03:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com