tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post1367043471600142577..comments2024-03-27T07:01:13.725+02:00Comments on The Muqata: Obituary: Zvi Narkiss z'lJameel @ The Muqatahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-68249461654597231252010-08-11T09:26:10.804+03:002010-08-11T09:26:10.804+03:00No, that doesn't look very Sephardic. The whol...No, that doesn't look very Sephardic. The whole shape of the letter is different for Sepharadim. They probably mean "Nusach Sephard," i.e., Chassidic, but even that's not correct- the site seems to confuse the two. (The traditional terms are "Bet Yosef" and "Ari" for the two Ashkenazi versions; neither is really accurate.)<br /><br />That said, there are many Sephardi scripts, on the one hand; on the other, Jews are in so much contact with each other that there's a certain amount of mixing of traditions and, among Ashkenazim at least, writing has become very standardized and cookie-cutter.Nachumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11292162031685942549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-57831732948664872812010-08-10T21:13:28.473+03:002010-08-10T21:13:28.473+03:00Would it be safe to say then that this image of a ...Would it be safe to say then that this image of a sephardic torah scroll actually is not Sephardic?<br /><br />http://www.ajudaica.com/Images/thumbs/254x280_aJudaica_2017_CRW_1060.JPG<br /><br /><br />I noticed that the Rhodes torah from the 1600s has the "chet" that we all recognize. Very interesting.<br /><br />Thanks for the answer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-68530327516166606592010-08-10T13:57:33.559+03:002010-08-10T13:57:33.559+03:00And if your question is, why don't fonts refle...And if your question is, why don't fonts reflect this, it's probably simply because most Jews wouldn't recognize it. Non-Ashkenazim would never have seen it; nor would secular Jews, Orthodox women, etc. There are other examples like this: A wine store in my neighborhood has its name in Rashi letters- except it uses a Rashi mem where it should use samekh, because they difference there is exactly the opposite of the regular font. Also, they use a regular (STaM, actually) shin in place of the Rashi shin, which looks nothing like a regular one (although it's obviously derived from it). Again, this is simply because many Jews have no idea what Rashi script is.Nachumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11292162031685942549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-40675126121573225182010-08-10T13:53:38.248+03:002010-08-10T13:53:38.248+03:00I think you mean caret, ^. Also, in some versions ...I think you mean caret, ^. Also, in some versions (Chassidic), it's vav-zayin. And in Sephardic and Yemenite, it looks just like a regular chet.<br /><br />In any event, the answer is simple enough. Originally (see the Dead Sea Scrolls, for example), chet and heh were pretty similar. The only difference was that the horizontal top of heh extended a bit to the left past the left leg, while the left leg of chet extended above the horizontal top a bit.<br /><br />Eventually, the heh became distinguished by separating its left leg from the rest of the letter, probably continuing on from the extension. There was no longer a need to distinguish the chet, but the line continued in some versions of STaM writings by adding the caret on the top, in the middle, and, perhaps to make it more noticeable, splitting the top of the letter.Nachumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11292162031685942549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-74989346015746758562010-08-10T12:52:45.583+03:002010-08-10T12:52:45.583+03:00In the torah, all the "Chets" (8th lette...In the torah, all the "Chets" (8th letter of the alephbet) look like two zayins with a small carrot connecting them. In all modern Hebrew fonts, even the ones that simulate the Ashyri Torah font, the Chet looks like your basic block chet.<br /><br />edit: I just did a google search and I see that now there are Torah fonts with the proper chet. But 5 years ago, when I was doing a project on this, they were not so prevalent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-10739712863184553632010-08-10T11:17:07.232+03:002010-08-10T11:17:07.232+03:00What's your question? I can probably answer it...What's your question? I can probably answer it.Nachumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11292162031685942549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-14321199472433167042010-08-09T21:35:31.066+03:002010-08-09T21:35:31.066+03:00Darn, I always wondered who to ask regarding the l...Darn, I always wondered who to ask regarding the letter "chet" in Hebrew fonts vs the font of the Torah.<br /><br />Now I know who to ask, but he is no longer with us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com