tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post2106499660478248080..comments2024-03-27T07:01:13.725+02:00Comments on The Muqata: Tel Aviv Occupation EspressoJameel @ The Muqatahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-86452045264754067312009-06-09T23:26:37.716+03:002009-06-09T23:26:37.716+03:00amyrpk: Its a fact that Tel Aviv University is bui...amyrpk: Its a fact that Tel Aviv University is built on the ruins Sheikh Munis village. <br /><br />Shlomo: While I dont trust PA propoganda as much as I can throw it, its known that Tel Aviv exists on at least a few Arab villages.<br /><br />However, the point is even if we don't believe it -- the raging Lefists Gideon Levy should believe it (because according to him, we have no claim to any part of Israel)...for him to hyporcritize that the settlements are stolen land, but not the cafe where he sips espresso is simply trash.Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-82130807003292796492009-06-09T22:57:42.725+03:002009-06-09T22:57:42.725+03:00Seriously Jameel, if you trust Palestinian propaga...Seriously Jameel, if you trust Palestinian propaganda on this point, it would only be honest to trust them on many other things which don't match your political outlook.<br /><br />(Personally, I don't trust them on anything)Shlomonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-28084570123088981782009-06-09T15:02:42.736+03:002009-06-09T15:02:42.736+03:00I thought Tel Aviv was built on empty sand dunes (...I thought Tel Aviv was built on empty sand dunes (at least that's what those pictures from 100 years ago look like).<br /><br />But the point of my comment is to question your reference to the map on the alnakba.org website as authoritative on the question of destroyed pre-'48 Arab villages. Am surprised that you'd give it such credence.amyrpkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07973204641467410337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-4555007459677298302009-06-09T06:27:14.432+03:002009-06-09T06:27:14.432+03:00Obama has at best 3 years to bring down the hammer...<i>Obama has at best 3 years to bring down the hammer, which is the blink of an eye in mid-east politics.</i><br /><br />Obama has 3 years to talk, talk, talk, and talk some more. Then after November 2012, he can "bring down the hammer".<br /><br />MarkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-59287036683569983372009-06-08T21:17:55.443+03:002009-06-08T21:17:55.443+03:00Gideon Levy and Akiva Elder have long loathed the ...Gideon Levy and Akiva Elder have long loathed the revanants. It never occurs to them that if the Jews weren't in Yizhar, they wouldn't be able to sip their espresso in peace. Its the very people they malign and hate that allows them to post op ed pieces in <i> Haaretz </i> completely disconnected from reality. And that's not a compliment to the likes of them on Israel's Left.NormanFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03365459073293643108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-40253748240781698242009-06-08T21:14:34.879+03:002009-06-08T21:14:34.879+03:00I disagree that Gideon Levy's contribution to ...I disagree that Gideon Levy's contribution to the state is "one big zero". I wish he were so innocuous.<br />Gideon Levy, hater of Zionism past and present in all its forms and apologist extraordinaire, is far, far more destructive than that.<br /><br />J.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-69035310925135260272009-06-08T20:16:14.537+03:002009-06-08T20:16:14.537+03:00It seems Levy can't possibly comprehend that s...It seems Levy can't possibly comprehend that someone who actually knows the law and order situation on the ground - first hand (and not from fake videos gone viral about the horrible settlers) - would actually be just that - someone who <b>knows</b> what is going on.<br /><br />Could it be (gasp) that the settlers are NOT the ones that have contributed to the criminality? <br /><br />One more thing - if it weren't for people that insisted, for thousands of years, on remaining <i>"isolated, conservative, religious and backward"</i> Levy would probably be a Christian German today...LBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03246649908259127942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-69630051140100172592009-06-08T17:42:29.746+03:002009-06-08T17:42:29.746+03:00True,
but the last time I was there it wasn't...True,<br /> but the last time I was there it wasn't easy finding a kosher restaurantDanielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01988284974987904623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-57251687806682142882009-06-08T15:34:12.091+03:002009-06-08T15:34:12.091+03:00Daniel; Just to be fair, despite their bad press, ...Daniel; Just to be fair, despite their bad press, there are settler supporters in Tel Aviv!<br /><br />And there are those who serve in the IDF...volunteer for MDA...and even learn in yeshivot.<br /><br />Despite Gideon Levy, Tel Aviv's not that awful a place ;-)Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-18197850263332957462009-06-08T15:25:05.035+03:002009-06-08T15:25:05.035+03:00While many of the lefties of Tel Aviv are grandchi...While many of the lefties of Tel Aviv are grandchildren of pioneers who fought for the state, ( but committed infractions such as ignoring Shoah and pais cutting) what have they done lately?<br /> Amos Oz in his book-" in the land of Israel" castigated the settlers for not producing "art"!<br /> Ok , if bad songs about a rock or tree, or bad rock bands or hip-hop violins or transsexual singing is art, I'd rather be a settler.<br /> Moreover , the Tel avivians have lost there will. That is why 1 million yordim live in the US et al. Yes there are some ortho yordim, but the vast majority make twice a year mcdonalds eating reform look frumDanielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01988284974987904623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-43208626764533692392009-06-08T14:14:19.436+03:002009-06-08T14:14:19.436+03:00Rafi: Except in the convoluted mind of Gideon Levy...Rafi: Except in the convoluted mind of Gideon Levy.Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-44615222568011986192009-06-08T13:54:11.653+03:002009-06-08T13:54:11.653+03:00plenty of people, from all over the country, contr...plenty of people, from all over the country, contribute in different ways to the State. The settlers contribute no less than anyone else, and often more.Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-82575078041673221042009-06-08T13:45:28.510+03:002009-06-08T13:45:28.510+03:00Whenever I get dragged into a "debate" b...Whenever I get dragged into a "debate" by my lefty friends about Israeli occupation, I always ask the following questions:<br /><br />1. Doesn't Israel deserve the lands they conquered in the three seperate times they were faced by multiple-front invasion by nations attempting to wipe them off the map? No?<br /><br />2. Okay, don't the nations who attacked Israel deserve punishment for thier aggression. Yes? Then please tell me the punishment that Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, etc suffered for thier aggression against Israel in 48, 67 and 72?<br /><br />I hope Bibi holds firm against Obama on the settlement issue. Time is on Israels side on this issue (if not on most other issues). Obama has at best 3 years to bring down the hammer, which is the blink of an eye in mid-east politics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com