tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post4370621162424662005..comments2024-03-27T07:01:13.725+02:00Comments on The Muqata: Getting Tough: Israel Most WantedJameel @ The Muqatahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-32309578325223581262010-10-20T20:17:37.729+02:002010-10-20T20:17:37.729+02:00still looking for him??
http://www.app.com/articl...still looking for him??<br /><br />http://www.app.com/article/20101020/NEWS/101020088/Lakewood-couple-charged-with-kidnapping-assaulting-Brooklyn-manAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-76194385022972888642010-09-27T16:10:34.955+02:002010-09-27T16:10:34.955+02:00I think that this a very complicated situation bec...I think that this a very complicated situation because as we we know, in Israel the men have a lot of wife, so, is difficult for women find a good husband or find her husband.Kamagrahttp://www.xlpharmacy.com/generic-viagra/online.phpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-9366275298652042162008-09-19T03:04:00.000+03:002008-09-19T03:04:00.000+03:00It would be nice now if the State of Israel would ...It would be nice now if the State of Israel would start enforcing child support claims against American men instead of allowing us to starve.Nofia Vered Shem-Tovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16182444908856293741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-83000368309603527542008-09-12T16:42:00.000+03:002008-09-12T16:42:00.000+03:00Yasher Koach, kudos, etc. for posting this importa...Yasher Koach, kudos, etc. for posting this important information!frumhousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02735783157413222489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-65571886188250112632008-09-12T15:39:00.000+03:002008-09-12T15:39:00.000+03:00The comments about his face are just infantile and...The comments about his face are just infantile and stupid. These people need to be found and brought to justice, but that is all! You have know idea what they are going through now, or when they were married.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-3638233845334674742008-09-12T05:58:00.000+03:002008-09-12T05:58:00.000+03:00Yochanan, why don't you ask the same question conc...Yochanan, why don't you ask the same question concerning the 3 mitzvot for which one is required to sacrifice one life for?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-72923031414882433672008-09-11T11:35:00.000+03:002008-09-11T11:35:00.000+03:00I will be linking to this!I will be linking to this!Leah Goodmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16546935038863589318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-69975804413791196682008-09-11T00:20:00.000+03:002008-09-11T00:20:00.000+03:00Agunot or mesurevet get, either way it is unbearab...Agunot or mesurevet get, either way it is unbearable. <BR/><BR/>Rivka makes a great point about the channels for helping a woman who is mesurevet get being used too rarely. I used to have to see the man who refused me a Get on the street each Shabbos. Knowing right where he is, but being unable to break free is painful & frustrating to out it mildly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-33612559507773288882008-09-10T23:17:00.000+03:002008-09-10T23:17:00.000+03:00Chaim said... "...why...only...men who have "disap...Chaim said... "<I>...why...only...men who have "disappeared." Aren't there many cases where the husband refuses to grant a get and just lives in another community...</I>"<BR/><BR/>The wife of a recalcitrant husband, who refuses to give his wife a get, but whose whereabouts are known, is a "mesurevet get."<BR/><BR/>Though her situation is also abominable, and I am in favor of publishing names of such husbands, legally and halachikally, she is in a better position. There are legal and social actions that may be taken against him. The fact that sanctions are rarely enforced is a travesty in and of itself. But those channels do exist.<BR/><BR/>For an agunah, the whereabouts of her husband are completely unknown and she is trapped with no chance of relief until her husband is located. I know someone whose husband literally disappeared off the face of this planet about ten years ago. He disappeared without a trace. It is possible that everthing about him, including his name, wasn't real to begin with.RivkA with a capital Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09411034058195730044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-15038591761338376972008-09-10T22:22:00.000+03:002008-09-10T22:22:00.000+03:00Well done Jameel! Thanks for doing this.Well done Jameel! Thanks for doing this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-6284473472656455442008-09-10T22:05:00.000+03:002008-09-10T22:05:00.000+03:00Yochanan, if it weren't for the divisions and mutu...Yochanan, if it weren't for the divisions and mutual hatred between different sectors of the Orthodox world, these men would not find acceptance in any Jewish community in the world.<BR/><BR/>In the long run, we have brought the agunah situation upon ourselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-8588617642304722822008-09-10T21:15:00.000+03:002008-09-10T21:15:00.000+03:00The situation of agunot makes me skeptical of "Tor...The situation of agunot makes me skeptical of "Torah Min HaShamayim".<BR/><BR/>If following laws (in this case Jewish marriage and divorce laws)can cause so much grief, what does that tell you about the lawmaker? If the lawmaker is a human, then you could just say "That person was an idiot." However, if the lawmaker is God, then you're compelled to say "Well, maybe this woman's grief is God's will and she just needs to suck it up."<BR/><BR/>You are probably thinking "The rabbis have remedies for agunot". Yeah, and doctors try to cure cancer. It doesn't mean they also spread cancer. The agunot are created because of following halacha.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-21200580435681125082008-09-10T20:38:00.000+03:002008-09-10T20:38:00.000+03:00I don't understand why the Chief Rabbinate is only...I don't understand why the Chief Rabbinate is only posting men who have "disappeared." Aren't there many cases where the husband refuses to grant a get and just lives in another community (as happens frequently in the US)? It is known where these individuals live but somehow their new communities don't know or seem to care about the agunot they left behind. Also, I don't see any age info posted for these men.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-40029418492734770302008-09-10T19:30:00.000+03:002008-09-10T19:30:00.000+03:00It would be helpful if someone told the rabbinate ...It would be helpful if someone told the rabbinate that this page should have a mirror page in ENGLISH, because it's likely many of these men have traveled to the USA.<BR/><BR/>AidelMaidelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-76933227249641208692008-09-10T18:33:00.000+03:002008-09-10T18:33:00.000+03:00Thank you for this post! I have been in these wome...Thank you for this post! I have been in these women's shoes myself. It took a few years and enormous social pressure to bring my sitation to an end. Families aiding and abetting is definitely a problem. Rabbeim who mean well, but don't push hard enough also comes into play. It is very comforting to see this matter being taken seriously!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-72089925531969032552008-09-10T17:10:00.000+03:002008-09-10T17:10:00.000+03:00I didnt think you were belittling it. Just wanted...I didnt think you were belittling it. Just wanted to poiint it out. I would guest post about it, but I already said everything I felt needed to be said.<BR/><BR/>I'll think about it tho... 2.5 years without posting makes it harder to write a full post.<BR/><BR/>JcopJerusalemcophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17194852862578375352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-52120010419220120772008-09-10T17:06:00.000+03:002008-09-10T17:06:00.000+03:00Abbi: Yes, the look on his face deserves makes me ...Abbi: Yes, the look on his face deserves makes me want to smack him.<BR/><BR/>JCop: Once again, you are totally correct...this post wasn't meant to belittle the issue of women who refuse to accept a get from their husband. You can guest post that here if you wish!Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-25047486811401378622008-09-10T16:54:00.000+03:002008-09-10T16:54:00.000+03:00I really want to wipe the smirk off that guy's fac...I really want to wipe the smirk off that guy's face in the picture, don't you?<BR/><BR/>Kol hakavod, jameel. If i had a blog, i'd give a link to this post a prominent place. :DCommenter Abbihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07753256568022159103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-54982491967651783082008-09-10T16:45:00.000+03:002008-09-10T16:45:00.000+03:00Jameel. Once again I applaud you for bringing up ...Jameel. Once again I applaud you for bringing up the agunah issue (which i believe is terrible that there are men who would do this), but once again I think it needs to be mentioned that there are men in similar situations whose wives refuse to accept the get. Most people dont realize that eventhough it is halachikly permissible for a man to get remarried, d'rabbanon they cannot and are stuck in a similar situation as these agunot. yes, they can still have a child out of wedlock and that child wont be considered a mamzer, but for a man who keeps the mitzvot, thats not an option. <BR/><BR/>From personal experience, I can tell you that the rabbanut doesnt place any sanctions on a woman who refuses to accept a get and she still gets child support and even in some cases spousal support without a get.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, neither situation is ideal and Im glad to see that the rabbanut is at least trying to take action against these jerks (I will refrain from using stronger language)<BR/><BR/>JcopJerusalemcophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17194852862578375352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-87348320791453854952008-09-10T16:34:00.000+03:002008-09-10T16:34:00.000+03:00Thanks Batya.Risa: Just imagine if any of these me...Thanks Batya.<BR/><BR/>Risa: Just imagine if any of these men are located because of a blog post? That would sure prove the value of our community :)Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-70452504355279037542008-09-10T16:31:00.000+03:002008-09-10T16:31:00.000+03:00Batya!Give it a prominent place! This is an import...Batya!<BR/>Give it a prominent place! This is an important issue and an important use of our 'community' (if there is one, etc.)Risa Tzoharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05012097234847651866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-73665485590778777152008-09-10T15:39:00.000+03:002008-09-10T15:39:00.000+03:00Important post.I'll add it right now to HH.Important post.<BR/>I'll add it right now to HH.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11246929075812590204noreply@blogger.com