tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post4849171072728602112..comments2024-03-27T07:01:13.725+02:00Comments on The Muqata: Challenging Peace Now - Targeting Illegal Palestinian BuildingJameel @ The Muqatahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-70476405547839818612009-09-17T19:55:17.420+03:002009-09-17T19:55:17.420+03:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-88154564311207912182009-09-16T16:06:58.961+03:002009-09-16T16:06:58.961+03:00the arrogance of the invaders to palestine are bei...the arrogance of the invaders to palestine are being watched from above. One day the real authority will begin to tear down all israeli illegal buildings and that means all of them. The entire country will once again disappear and the land will be returned to its rightful owners and not some religious whackos who have a dreamed up god and false religion. Moses should be dug up and tortured for eternity for what he has done to humanity. The more israel builds, by experience they should know this is more to have fun tearing down. But the world awaits on a third temple and installed ruling copy-cat dynasty before the fun begins and the collapse of America so israel will once again be all alone and on their own. The future of humanity is addressable germ warfare. Every nation of the world is working hard and fast at seeing who can create the population solutions first. Mankind is doomed by his own hand. Stupid humans! Long live Egypt!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-58172328600250598342009-09-15T15:02:28.070+03:002009-09-15T15:02:28.070+03:00Right. The modern state of Israel defies the wand...Right. The modern state of Israel defies the wandering Jew and your theology. Hence you anger.<br /><br />You aren't opposition. Just a proselytizing annoyance, which is out of bounds for this blog.<br /><br />Bye!Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-30740763392579473792009-09-15T14:50:06.131+03:002009-09-15T14:50:06.131+03:00Nah, it doesn't kill me (lol), it kills you. ...Nah, it doesn't kill me (lol), it kills you. What is it that you don't understand? There's a reason for the "wandering Jews." You defiled your father's bed, so you move to the couch, Reuben. <br /><br />Go ahead, Jew boy. Delete my comments (lol). That's one way to win a debate. Silence the opposition (lol).<br /><br />Chris JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-54612752891709052352009-09-14T22:17:45.583+03:002009-09-14T22:17:45.583+03:00Bak @ annie,
You obviously have an emotional issue...Bak @ annie,<br />You obviously have an emotional issue. There is no way that I would want to be a Jew. You can have that to yourself. Have fun with your Jewish (not Christian) New Year. And feel free to ignore the scripture. It’s your doom, not mine.<br /><br />Chris JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-74801648502719171432009-09-14T21:39:39.689+03:002009-09-14T21:39:39.689+03:00Oh Chris, give it up already. You're claiming ...Oh Chris, give it up already. You're claiming that you are the true Jews and I know that we are the Jews. If you so want to be Jewish come on over and study sincerely and convert. If you dare. But please, stop missionizing. You're convincing nobody but yourself. <br /><br />And now I have to go and start preparing for the Jewish (not Christian) New Year which is upon us.anniehttp://discardedlies.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-78908835070937404672009-09-14T15:34:34.246+03:002009-09-14T15:34:34.246+03:00Bak @ Anne,
Are you capable of reading? If so, ho...Bak @ Anne,<br />Are you capable of reading? If so, how could you draw those conclusions? Jews are Jews and Christians are Christians. Both of them are in trouble, because they tried to slant the prophecies in their favor. Neither of them are the ones they claim to be. But you can find them both in the prophecies, under various other names. You can even find them here.<br /><br />Isaiah 44:5. This one shall say, "I am the Lord's," and this one shall call himself by the name of Jacob, and this one shall write [with] his hand, "To the Lord," and adopt the name Israel.<br /><br />It’s unfortunate for them that they don’t know that adopting a name doesn’t mean that they are the people of that name. It just means that they want to be that people. It is that desire to be that people that causes them to arrogantly make the claim that they are, even though there is quite a lot of evidence that they are not. One piece of evidence is that the ones, who make the claim to be Israel, aren’t the ones who are. But somebody had to do it.<br /><br />The “Land of Israel,” as you call it, belongs to those who rightfully possessed it before the illegal declaration of the “state of Israel’s” sovereignty. You can’t just take land that no one is living on and build houses on it and then call it your own. Yet that is what the nation of Israel began doing, and is still doing. The entire world is beginning to turn on you, because of that. But don’t take that to mean that you are the true Israel, even though the entire world will be against the true Israel. Yes, the world will turn on Israel, but that only happens after Ephraim is no longer a people, and the true Israel is drawn from the nations. You are warned here.<br /><br />Isaiah 28:1. Woe is to the crown of the pride of the drunkards of Ephraim and the young fruit of an inferior fig is the position of his glory, which is at the end of a valley of fatness, crushed by wine.<br /><br />Your pride is preventing you from realizing that this is a warning to you. You are the “crown of pride.” Do you know what that means? “Crown” is the uppermost part of something. What people have the uppermost pride? Would that be the ones who claim to be Israel? Of course it is. You can find more evidence of who those people are in this line.<br /><br />Isaiah 28:14. Therefore, listen to the word of the Lord, men of scorn, allegorists of this people who are in Jerusalem.<br /><br />That’s from “your” “holy Torah.” What is it that you don’t understand? You guys are alleging that you are the rightful owners of Jerusalem. You are the “allegorists.” You are further described here, in the next line.<br /><br />Isaiah 28:15. For you said, "We have made a treaty with death, and with the grave we have set a limit; when an overflowing scourge passes, it shall not come upon us, for we have made lies our shelter and in falsehood have we hidden ourselves.<br /><br />Those of you who don’t realize it are going to suffer. <br /><br />Isaiah 28: 18.And your treaty with death shall be nullified, and your limit with the grave shall not endure; when an overflowing scourge passes, you shall be trampled by it.<br /><br />That “overflowing scourge” gets mentioned again.<br /><br />Isaiah 28:22.And now, do not scorn, lest your pains become strong, for a complete destruction have I heard from the Lord God of Hosts upon the entire land.<br /><br />That “complete destruction,” “upon the entire land” hasn’t happened yet. That’s how we know for sure that you are in trouble. We know that for sure, because this chapter from Isaiah is warning the people who are in control of Jerusalem prior to that “complete destruction.” That would be the “state of Israel.”<br /><br />Isaiah 28:19. When it passes, it shall take you, for every morning it shall pass, by day and by night, and it shall be only terror to understand the message.<br /><br />The longer you wait to “understand the message,” the worse the “terror” becomes.<br /><br />Chris JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-24987858632206185952009-09-13T17:32:33.033+03:002009-09-13T17:32:33.033+03:00Bak @ Renegade
Who even remotely said that you are...Bak @ Renegade<br />Who even remotely said that you aren’t real Jews? Why didn’t you ask if the land belonged to you if you were the real Israel? <br />But, the answer to your question as you asked is no. You stole most of the land that you guys live on, just like you stole your namesake.<br /><br />Chris JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-90331233097330587772009-09-13T10:22:22.854+03:002009-09-13T10:22:22.854+03:00Hilarious- how the hell did you get onto Yahoo Fro...Hilarious- how the hell did you get onto Yahoo Front Page?<br /><br />- and, for the record, I agree with Yellow Boy. Shocker!tafka ppnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-10574203138064788942009-09-13T09:20:33.185+03:002009-09-13T09:20:33.185+03:00@chris:
let's say for argument's sake tha...@chris:<br /><br />let's say for argument's sake that we really are the real Jews, would that mean the land of Israel does belong to us?Renegadenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-34282850272789925612009-09-12T05:47:48.317+03:002009-09-12T05:47:48.317+03:00The basic rule of war applies. To the victor goes ...The basic rule of war applies. To the victor goes all the spoils, all gold and property and slaves. This rule goes back to the beginning of time. The geography of the USA , USSR and China are made up of the spoils of war but they will never call it that.johnmdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06145224923764611625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-21189380620179744402009-09-11T17:15:39.243+03:002009-09-11T17:15:39.243+03:00A Jewish nightmare come true. What does it matter...A Jewish nightmare come true. What does it matter WHO I am. I am. <br /><br />Why doesn't anyone want to discuss the issues that I have presented?<br /><br />Is that because you guys know that what you are doing is wrong, but just can't admit it?<br /><br />Do you think that if you can change what the prophets told you?<br /><br />And who told you that it was your "very own Torah?" Was the Torah not meant for the world?<br /><br />Of course the Torah was meant for the world. <br /><br />There's a man who is mentioned by Isaiah, who would not know God, yet he would lead humanity to peace. He is not of the Jewish faith, or any other faith. Yet he shows up as a leader of humanity. He is the "anointed of God."<br /><br />Yes, we all know that you think he has come and gone. But are you sure enough about that to bet your life, and the lives of your children on that?<br /><br />Let's see.....oh darn.......what was his name?<br /><br />Chris JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-59288585226964522582009-09-11T15:27:36.116+03:002009-09-11T15:27:36.116+03:00Who is this Chris J who presumes to tell Jews how ...Who is this Chris J who presumes to tell Jews how and what to believe of their very own Torah?anniehttp://discardedlies.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-76506015479945225292009-09-10T23:33:09.070+03:002009-09-10T23:33:09.070+03:00Ouch....Did I hit a nerve? I must have, because y...Ouch....Did I hit a nerve? I must have, because you provided a very canned Jewish response. You resort to name-calling, instead of disputing the facts.<br /><br />But then, that's all that you are capable of, since you apparently only half a brain. Isn't that hat you meant, when you said that my "token status means nothing to anyone with half a brain." Ah, that's right. It's not what you meant to say. It was just a Freudian slip. You see, you said that my name means nothing, which means that to you, it means nothing. And then you clarified that it was because you only had "half a brain."<br /><br />Then you proceed to show your ignorance again, by calling me a "hate monger," just because I don't agree with you. Again, that's another canned Jewish response to anyone that doesn't buy in to their BS.<br /><br />For the record, I don't hate anyone. But I would defend myself from anyone who came to burn my house down; unless I built my house on someone else's land and it was the land owner who was burning it.<br /><br />Thanks for the laughs.<br /><br />Oh yeah, one more thing. They're not going to drive you guys into the sea. They are going to starve you, cut off your water supply, burn you, and then kill you when you try to run away. That's from Ezekiel, but you gotta read the whole book to get that, so I won't paste it here.<br /><br />Aren't you guys supposed to be studying up on that? Or do you do like the Christians and skip past the parts that you don't agree with?<br /><br />Chris JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-10700340447145651342009-09-10T20:52:02.450+03:002009-09-10T20:52:02.450+03:00Ben, of course you can say that about Muslims, and...Ben, of course you can say that about Muslims, and be more accurate. The FACT is that quite a lot of Jews are converts, and don't even try to trace their ancestry back to "Israel." So you can't really say that about "Every Jew." And there is another FACT that you guys like to leave out. Your version of "history" is from the Written Torah, and you guys merely CLAIM to be the people of the twelve tribes of Israel. There is ABSOLUTELY no proof beyond your own word about that.<br /><br />Chris JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-29657175233229446832009-09-10T18:58:48.276+03:002009-09-10T18:58:48.276+03:00Jameel, the UN did break it's own law, when th...Jameel, the UN did break it's own law, when they didn't establish a government that didn't reflect a majority rule for the land of Palestine. It was their legal obligation to do so, under UN Article 73b.<br /><br />The members who voted to create two states within the land of Palestine ignored that law. If they had followed that law, there would have been no need to even vote.<br /><br />Instead, they let their emotions get to them, because of the holocaust. Yes, the holocaust was a very terrible event, but that should NOT have been used to justify what they did. The world would not allow that to happen today. The Jews of Germany would be allowed to return to Germany after Hitler was removed from power.<br /><br />The UN's partition plan was NOT the "world's admission that there needs to be a Jewish State." It was a vote passed by nations that were (and still are) dominated by Christians, who felt sorry for the Jews. Most of Africa wasn't even allowed to vote. All of the nations in the Middle East that were allowed to vote, voted against the plan. In essense, the vote was passed by people that weren't immediately affected. And to make matters worse, the USA coerced three countries to change their votes in favor of the plan. If it hadn't been for that, the plan would have never passed. That's ironic, because it's also illegal in the USA to coerce a vote.<br /><br />When you say that "Israel existence was accepted by the world at the time," you quite mistaken. The world did not accept the nation of Israel, and it still doesn't. The might of the world doesn't really constitute the world. There is still quite a lot of resistance to the nation of Israel, and that resistance is now catapulting the world into war. <br /><br />It would be nice if the world didn't have to fight over the Jewish claim of rightful ownership of the "Holy Land," but it's not going to happen. The world is going to fight over it. And guess what. Those who favor the imposter Israel (that's you guys) are going to lose. That is a given. The prophets of your own people told you so.<br /><br />The real "Israel" isn't supposed to gather until AFTER the natural calamities have begun to occur. There is supposed to be a horrific war before those things happen. That war is supposed to be about the control of Jerusalem. Those in control of Jerusalem, just prior to the natural calamities are supposed to get their butts handed to them.<br /><br />Isaiah 28:14 Wherefore hear the word of the LORD, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.<br /><br />Isaiah 28: 22Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth. <br /><br />That "consumption" is a reference to the natural disasters that will kill most people. And the "scornful men" are the ones who dominate Jerusalem before the "consumption."<br /><br />I'm sure that you guys would like to continue to ignore those words, but ignoring them won't help you. You might even like to claim that those words are about "someone else," but that claim won't fly, unless Jerusalem gets taken over again.<br /><br />Chris JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-32976323115417703392009-09-10T17:36:46.221+03:002009-09-10T17:36:46.221+03:00Chris: While you claim the UN may have "broke...Chris: While you claim the UN may have "broken its own law" -- it actually didn't because the Partition Plan being ratified in the UN by a majority. <br /><br />That very act of ratification is exactly the essence of a "political consensus"<br /><br />Israel existence was accepted by the world at the time.<br /><br />Why do you say everything else is irrelevant?<br /><br />At the end of the day, the UN's partition plan was the world's admission that there needs to be a Jewish State, since the world failed miserably in saving Jews and preventing the Holocaust.Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-3562688526545616372009-09-10T17:06:56.631+03:002009-09-10T17:06:56.631+03:00"Chris: You quote from UN International Law, ..."Chris: You quote from UN International Law, Article 73b, yet say the exact same organization ignored its own law by proposing the 1947 UN Partitian Plan."<br /><br />That is correct, Jameel. The 1947 UN Partitian Plan was against the law established by the UN, and they broke their own law. That kind of thing happens all the time, which is why we have "Supreme Courts." It's unfortunate that we don't have a Supreme Court for the UN. Oh, wait a minute, we do have one, though it's not an "official" court. It's called "political concensus," and it's being ignored by the "State of Israel" as well.<br /><br />If the official laws had been followed, there never would have been a "State of Israel," because the majority of the population in Palestine was Arab people. The govenment of Palestine should have therefore been established by "majority rule." That didn't happen. Instead, a minority rule was imposed on everyone that lived there, by the establishment of the "State of Israel."<br /><br />Everything that happened after that is irrelevant, including the creation of the Palestinian Authority.<br /><br />The population since that illegal act has grown in favor of Jewish immigration to the point of domination by Jews. The Arab communities therefore have very little say in government. Basically, what's happened there is a takeover by immigrants. That should have never been allowed to happen.<br /><br />It seems as though there is no workable solution, because the only real soluion is to make everyone go back to where they came, prior to the beginning of the Zionist Invasion. Of course, that's not "workable," because most of the countries from which they came don't want them back. Another reason that it won't work is because the Jewish people think that they are the "Israel" of the Torah, and that they should stand their ground. So they don't want to go back to where they came from.<br /><br />There's a lot of prophecy related to that. The outcome doesn't favor the "immigrants." They get "dashed to pieces" by the "Medes" (people of the Middle Land). When that happens, it will dwarf what Hitler did. And it's going to happen, because the Torah says so.<br /><br />Chris JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-8551930827206329922009-09-10T16:10:33.110+03:002009-09-10T16:10:33.110+03:00Chris: You quote from UN International Law, Artic...Chris: You quote from UN International Law, Article 73b, yet say the exact same organization ignored its own law by proposing the 1947 UN Partitian Plan.<br /><br />Additionally, like it or not, Avi's point above still stands. The Palestinian Authority, which claims to be the sole representative of the Palestinians, signed the Oslo B agreement, in which all administrative authority and zoning rights in Area C are under Israel's control.<br /><br />Hence, all building there must be approved (Jewish and Arab) by the Israeli Military Authority.<br /><br />If Peace Now spends every waking moment evaluating the "approval" for Jewish building, then why is anything wrong with evaluating the illegality of Arab building in Area C?<br /><br />The PA agreed to it.Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-16638904263376289202009-09-10T15:32:47.018+03:002009-09-10T15:32:47.018+03:00"avi said...
Wow, a flood of idiotic Jew bai..."avi said... <br />Wow, a flood of idiotic Jew baiting comments come from 1 troll. It's a complete waste of time arguing with these kinds of people, but here it goes nonetheless..."<br /><br />"Troll?" It's hard not to notice that people resort to name-calling when they should be listening. It's also hard not to notice that Jewish people resort to that quite often. Is that because they know that they are wrong, but don't want to admit it?<br /><br />If moral ethics and legal resolutions had been followed, there never would have been an "Israeli law," because there never would have been a "State of Israel." That trumps anything that happend afterwards.<br /><br />You can call me names all you want, but that won't change what's right. All that does is show the kind of person you are. <br /><br />Here's my name. Why don't you see if you can figure out what it means. Here, I'll give you a hint. It's a nice Hebrew name.<br /><br />Chris JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-42129039304977582912009-09-10T15:06:42.598+03:002009-09-10T15:06:42.598+03:00Wow, a flood of idiotic Jew baiting comments come ...Wow, a flood of idiotic Jew baiting comments come from 1 troll. It's a complete waste of time arguing with these kinds of people, but here it goes nonetheless...<br /><br />Under the Oslo Accords, the Palestinian Authority agreed that Israel will have administrative control in Area C in Judea and Samaria, and that includes zoning laws. That means that the Israeli government has the authority to enforce zoning laws in these areas by right of Israeli law, international law and internationally signed and guaranteed agreements with the Palestinian Authority. End of story.avinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-58688361227954417002009-09-10T14:43:16.920+03:002009-09-10T14:43:16.920+03:00"CHRIS J, CHRIS J please respond to my point!..."CHRIS J, CHRIS J please respond to my point! Do you not understand that my point is that NO ONE HAD TAKEN ANYONE'S LAND prior to May 15, 1948, when Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Lebanon along with Palestinian paramilitary factions invaded the newly declared state of Israel."<br /><br />Oh, was that your point? I thought that was covered previously, with the showing of population count. The people who lived there were the legal owners of the land. They should have been allowed to set up their own government. That is International Law, covered by UN Article 73b.<br /><br />"Members of the United Nations will have or assume responsibilities for the administration of territories whose peoples have not yet attained a full measure of self-government recognize the principle that the interests of the inhabitants of these territories are paramount, and accept a sacred trust the obligation to promote to the utmost, within the systm of international peace and security established by the present Charter, the well-being of the inhabitants of these territories, and, to this end: b) in the progressive development of their free political institutions, according to the particular circumstances of each territory and its peoples and their varying stages of advancement." <br /><br />That article was NOT adhered to with the establishment of the 1947 UN Partitian Plan. If it had been, there would have been no Jewish State of Israel, because the Jewish population (comprised mostly of immigrants) was vastly outnumbered by the Arab population (comprised mostly of natives).<br /><br />The Arab nations that attacked the new State of Israel were therefore right in doing so, because the establishment of the State of Israel was an illegal act and an immoral act.<br /><br />Chris JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-29151928156170620322009-09-10T12:01:40.884+03:002009-09-10T12:01:40.884+03:00Funny comments, because as I've mentioned in t...Funny comments, because as I've mentioned in the past, my extended family were Hebron residents and landowners until the Arab Massacre of 1929 when the family escaped through a series of miracles in what is an amazing story.<br /><br />In fact, the family history goes way back before the Arabs showed up, and even though there are Arabs living in the family's Hebron homes right now - the family hasn't given up hope of getting our property back.JoeSettlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01232647820807408898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-20817822504372670292009-09-10T11:59:36.284+03:002009-09-10T11:59:36.284+03:00Regavim's on a roll - as promised, they are co...Regavim's on a roll - as promised, they are continuing to use the exact same Peace Now process, against illegal Palestinian construction.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3774860,00.html" rel="nofollow">ynetnews:</a><br /><br /><i>The Regavim movement, and three settlements in the Maale Adumim region filed a petition to the High Court of Justice against Defense Minister Ehud Barak and the central command chief, demanding they be ordered to explain their failure to carry out demolition orders on 257 illegal homes in Kfar Adumim's jurisdiction.<br /> <br />The petitioners also asked the court to order the defense official to take all necessary means to prevent the population of a most and school being constructed illegally in the area.</i>Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-55777834402931551112009-09-10T11:30:32.091+03:002009-09-10T11:30:32.091+03:00I wanted to comment, but I do not know what happen...I wanted to comment, but I do not know what happened to all the comments here.<br /><br />The regavim appeal to the courts was exactly the same text as that used by Peace Now, for their appeals, just the names of the Arab village was substituted. IT was like a test case.<br /><br />As for the Jews go back to middle east in the other comments.<br />My family came from the middle east, they were EXPELLED from another ME country after the establishment of the state of Israel and left with nothing but what they could carry.<br /><br />All their wealth was left behind.<br /><br />There is an internet site and a capaign about reparations from ME coutnries<br /><br />http://www.forgottenrefugees.org/blog/index.phpkerennoreply@blogger.com