tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post4935950194606902936..comments2024-03-27T07:01:13.725+02:00Comments on The Muqata: Israel's Total Failure: Schijveschuurder Family Plans to Leave IsraelJameel @ The Muqatahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-53077464023805751092012-01-14T23:04:54.605+02:002012-01-14T23:04:54.605+02:00Meir to Noam Shalit: Go back to being an anonymous...Meir to Noam Shalit: Go back to being an anonymous father.<br /><br />http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART2/326/358.html<br /><br />סחיווסחורדר לשליט: חזור להיות אב פרטיjoshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-92195831824996188432011-11-01T17:44:54.400+02:002011-11-01T17:44:54.400+02:00i think my bubby would say
"for this we need ...i think my bubby would say<br />"for this we need a jewish state?"AMSHINOVERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07680072149053035110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-53467090701288720012011-11-01T10:42:48.519+02:002011-11-01T10:42:48.519+02:00Unfortunately, we are all at fault here. Where we...Unfortunately, we are all at fault here. Where were all the Tzedaka agencies, the neighbors, the friends, the rabbanim, the gedolei hador, the good-for-nothing MK's who don't answer even Emails from citizens?<br />The government is not the only guilty organization, even though many of its leaders are incompetent, idiot savants, and lack basic common sense of how to get things done that need to be done. <br />We, the members of the Jewish people, each and every one of us are to blame. When we think that "someone" is taking care of the Schijveschuurder family, then actually, "No one" is taking care of them.<br />May Hashem accept from each and every one of us our teshuva and forgive all of us of the grave sin of not taking care of orphans.Meirnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-84451595085654861532011-10-30T21:39:10.396+02:002011-10-30T21:39:10.396+02:00I AM IN CONTACT WITH THEM. SHVUEL LIVES IN MY YISH...I AM IN CONTACT WITH THEM. SHVUEL LIVES IN MY YISHUV.<br />EFRAIMFritzihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13386015963951480024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-78162450266440773812011-10-30T17:43:01.551+02:002011-10-30T17:43:01.551+02:00This is heartbreaking. Why didn't we know? I c...This is heartbreaking. Why didn't we know? I certainly don't blame them for leaving the country and I wish them happy and fulfilling lives back in Holland.Rachel Selbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13113411205306116614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-29145363069774701272011-10-30T09:56:33.213+02:002011-10-30T09:56:33.213+02:00Is there anything any of can do now to reach out t...Is there anything any of can do now to reach out to the family? Does someone know how to reach them? It is too late to correct our mistakes in the past, but now that we have read this, is it possible to do something now, either financially, emotionally, etc????<br /><br />It is one thing to arouse our emotions. Action is the main thing, though. Does anyone know their addresses? phone numbers????<br /><br />Thank youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-92148094744839301892011-10-30T07:54:23.092+02:002011-10-30T07:54:23.092+02:00a little tangential but could someone give me the ...a little tangential but could someone give me the correct pronounciation for Schijveschuurder ?Gee a Moronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00049652650047347640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-52031665221192420302011-10-30T06:29:54.290+02:002011-10-30T06:29:54.290+02:00Oh. Forgive me. I forgot for a minute, that your y...Oh. Forgive me. I forgot for a minute, that your yesterday was Saturday.<br />--Ma SandsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-39268495108315352262011-10-30T05:41:12.611+02:002011-10-30T05:41:12.611+02:00ARE YOU GUYS OKAY ??? ):
Wondering......perhaps y...ARE YOU GUYS OKAY ??? ):<br /><br />Wondering......perhaps you are part of the forces against Gaza this volatile day?? <br /><br />Worried......oh, my heart! ):<br /><br />--Ma Sands<br />MN, USAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-69235817155363563652011-10-28T15:19:37.522+02:002011-10-28T15:19:37.522+02:00http://news.nana10.co.il/Article/?ArticleId=841722...<a href="http://news.nana10.co.il/Article/?ArticleId=841722&sid=126" rel="nofollow">http://news.nana10.co.il/Article/?ArticleId=841722&sid=126</a><br /><br />English version may be coming out soon too.JoeSettlernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-5248484888638772952011-10-28T13:25:04.129+02:002011-10-28T13:25:04.129+02:00This made me cry. May Hashem give them strength. &...This made me cry. May Hashem give them strength. "Vehashiva shofteinu k'varishona"<br /><br />How can I watch the whole program?Chana Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-75776494834317210652011-10-28T11:46:03.647+02:002011-10-28T11:46:03.647+02:00"Why is powerlessness assumed to be the only ..."Why is powerlessness assumed to be the only morally tenable position?"<br /><br />That belief is shared among most liberals nowadays, but its source is really in Christianity with the belief in "turning the other cheek".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-39725289605198956042011-10-28T11:22:40.335+02:002011-10-28T11:22:40.335+02:00Those who betray orphans and widows will be punish...Those who betray orphans and widows will be punished. Ten-fold will they pay for their sins.<br /><br /><br />And every man and every family in Israel will know the horror of what they have done.<br /><br />Their sin will assuredly visit them in broad daylight and they too will be orphans and widows!NormanFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03365459073293643108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-34933980658803784252011-10-28T07:57:16.194+02:002011-10-28T07:57:16.194+02:00Although this is the most difficult story to read,...Although this is the most difficult story to read, the commentors here should be aware that there are at least 10 other familes where both parents were killed in terror attacks.<br /><br />Even if the extended family do bring up the children (some times older sisters/brothers), currently there is very little help for themkerennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-91805061211787720752011-10-28T05:04:32.704+02:002011-10-28T05:04:32.704+02:00It's a tough thing. Two years ago the נפש יפה...It's a tough thing. Two years ago the נפש יפה at my Seder table glossed שפוך חמתך by commenting that having the power to realize this wish, we are compelled to refrain from using it.<br /><br />I think this is a fairly common conception on the Israeli left - that there is a kind of concupiscence associated with the exercise of power. They see moral grandeur in being victims, even if it means refraining from exercising the power to avert that victimhood.<br /><br />I don't understand it. Why is powerlessness assumed to be the only morally tenable position?<br /><br />All I can say that now, with Shalit safely out of harms way, there needs to be a little משפך המה על המאס.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-63078906901888878852011-10-28T04:34:50.533+02:002011-10-28T04:34:50.533+02:00This is a truly tragic story. The only way to help...This is a truly tragic story. The only way to help stop this type of madness is to have justice, in that there is the death penalty for these terrorists. What everyone has to remember is that Eretz Yisrael and Am Yisrael and what they stand for, far, far transcend the current corrupt rulers. With the help of G-d Yisrael in its fullness will arise. Until them keep the emunah in the process that is happening in Eretz Yisrael. "Ata takum t'rachem Tzion, K'et L'cheninah K'va Moed"Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-53264302767913021872011-10-27T23:41:47.331+02:002011-10-27T23:41:47.331+02:00I'm speechless...what a tragedy. Even though m...I'm speechless...what a tragedy. Even though more than a thousand Israelis were killed at the hands of terrorists in the last 10 years, there are still no memorials such as Yad Vashem to remember their stories. I can't think of a single street in Israel that was named after one of the victims yet the Palestinians automatically name their streets after the suicide bombers. There are so many other families of victims who were totally neglected by the government. Even if they wanted to leave the country, most of them don't have a second passport and have no where to go.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-47392154872779657762011-10-27T21:51:30.181+02:002011-10-27T21:51:30.181+02:00How can this be? How very very sad and frustrating...How can this be? How very very sad and frustrating, I feel anger and immense sadness, as a parent I cannot imagine this happening to children left all alone, I want to get on a plane and find them and hug them and ahhhhh how can this be! Que pena mas grande.....Gibbohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04807864781273795822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-30122919891646812752011-10-27T19:15:53.565+02:002011-10-27T19:15:53.565+02:00I heard someone say, that the family is going to h...I heard someone say, that the family is going to hire a killer to kill the Terrorist in Jordan - because it is legal there.<br />I hope they succeed.<br />As I citizen of this country, I can honestly say, I am truly ashamed by this - I have many times thought of Yerida since this is not the Israel I made aliya to. However, due to my family and commitment to Eretz Yisrael, we have decided to stay (for now).realRightWingernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-46779669776280708172011-10-27T17:04:00.262+02:002011-10-27T17:04:00.262+02:00Very sad on so many levels. Thanks for posting, J...Very sad on so many levels. Thanks for posting, Jameel.yaakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08179304707239865515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-45589777028607549322011-10-27T16:58:47.519+02:002011-10-27T16:58:47.519+02:00Something like the government saying "we know...Something like the government saying "we know your pain and want to add to it"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-32528632198461137352011-10-27T16:40:03.561+02:002011-10-27T16:40:03.561+02:00Moshe: Not every community knows how to step up to...Moshe: Not every community knows how to step up to bat at these crucial moments...plus, when the parents and half the family are murdered -- the community and rabbis/leaders need to find the kids, ASAP.<br /><br />They might not have known. And thats the first hour after the attack; what about the livayot? What about the past 10 years?!<br /><br />This was probably one of the hardest blog post I ever wrote...Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-37822816456740947612011-10-27T16:34:54.897+02:002011-10-27T16:34:54.897+02:00It comes at no surprise that this poor family was ...It comes at no surprise that this poor family was lost in the all the red tape.<br /><br />The question is, where were the community? <br />Where were all the Chesed organizations etc?<br />Where were the people of Neria?<br />Is there no rav or leader who could have stepped in to take charge at those crucial moments?Moshenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-91050931653807367262011-10-27T16:13:15.076+02:002011-10-27T16:13:15.076+02:00reading this post leaves me bawling like a baby. ...reading this post leaves me bawling like a baby. I read your blog once in a while but have never posted. this leaves me with a huge hole in my heart and shows the deep deep wounds that the terrorists create. Many times we focus on the # of people killed in terrorist attacks. What is unfortunately overlooked is all those who may have physically survived but are slowly dying and losing their daily life and struggle to live because of the either physical or mental damage caused by the attacks. All agencies in Israel should be ashamed reading this. I do hope and pray that someone does reach out and provide this family with the psychological help they so desperately need.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com