tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post5684710374778936159..comments2024-03-27T07:01:13.725+02:00Comments on The Muqata: Couple Stranded at Ben Gurion Airport? I Doubt it.Jameel @ The Muqatahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-44812559153343311192010-09-27T18:52:53.753+02:002010-09-27T18:52:53.753+02:00There are some very cruel people out there.And I s...There are some very cruel people out there.And I still would not wish our experiance on anyone.<br />G-D bless to you all and please look in the mirror before you judge!<br />Just so all are aware we gave up our home,car etcKamagrahttp://www.xlpharmacy.com/generic-viagra/online.phpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-65842798644228592772010-02-12T11:44:04.714+02:002010-02-12T11:44:04.714+02:00This means they came to Israel without first filin...This means they came to Israel without first filing for aliyah (chaval, you miss the free flight). Then they applied to NBN's express-aliyah for those already in the country. And that was rejected.<br /><br />But then why would they be here for a "visit"? And if they were already homeowners then certainly they realized some things take time, - like even express aliyah can take 2 months. But they showed up without anywhere to stay or any funds to stay there?<br /><br />I think the debt was at those hotels... check their luggage for some robes.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-34937803650445433762010-02-11T20:40:14.646+02:002010-02-11T20:40:14.646+02:00I'd certainly like to see some truth... how do...I'd certainly like to see some truth... how does one give up one's home and car and not have 9000 shekels (US$2200)?Leah Goodmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16546935038863589318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-33104961001016758122010-02-11T14:49:27.548+02:002010-02-11T14:49:27.548+02:00Before you comment or judge everyone should let th...Before you comment or judge everyone should let the story unfold! As it did on feb 11th jpost.com page 9.<br />The truth prevailed.<br />We have recieved help from only one angel that has helped us to get home! All other funds that might come r not in our hands and if so would be donated to others such as victims of identity theft.There are some very cruel people out there.And I still would not wish our experiance on anyone.<br />G-D bless to you all and please look in the mirror before you judge!<br />Just so all are aware we gave up our home,car etc....to move here and were mislead by a company not mentioned and the truth will prevail again!<br />Jack&SusanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-70888012343631350232010-02-11T11:27:40.174+02:002010-02-11T11:27:40.174+02:00BOTH; Thanks! :-)BOTH; Thanks! :-)Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-46190008290364978012010-02-11T03:01:46.903+02:002010-02-11T03:01:46.903+02:00The Dutchman probably didn't read this blog be...<b>The Dutchman probably didn't read this blog before handing over the money.</b><br /><br />I would recommend reading this blog to all Dutchmen.The back of the hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05564245223453467132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-55853539672338099302010-02-10T17:26:10.546+02:002010-02-10T17:26:10.546+02:00their whole story sounds fishy as anything, and I&...their whole story sounds fishy as anything, and I'm sorry if some Dutchman got taken in by it. I'm guessing they managed to take plenty of money off of Israeli passers-by as well, but nobody will mention that.Leah Goodmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16546935038863589318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-61350857550719217312010-02-10T16:15:56.864+02:002010-02-10T16:15:56.864+02:00@jameel- "they aren't stupid enough to be...@jameel- "they aren't stupid enough to be FRIARS and give money to convicted swindlers."<br /><br />don't gimme that nonsense. they do it every year just by paying taxes. i'm not even going to mention the rest of the very long list i have in mind. palestinian authority, anyone?<br /><br />i see what you're saying. it's true israeli's have a tremendous aversion to frierdom. my 23 years of experience in this country says it means NOTHING. and in a case like this, where the details are so muddy and confused, that dutchman embarassed us all if you ask me.jonathan beckernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-45637494913586973992010-02-10T16:11:33.766+02:002010-02-10T16:11:33.766+02:00@batya: see below. while this may be a case of mis...@batya: see below. while this may be a case of mistaken identity (see jpost articles) the picture accompaniying the latest article seems to be a guy i've seen before at mike's place, yes. as i mentioned in another post, because i keep kosher i didn't hang around the kitchen much, and i think he usually wore a hat (didn't know about the shiny pate thing) but i'm pretty sure that's him, yes. but whether that's the guy with the debt and the shady past is apparently another question.jonathan beckernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-74500636767225433142010-02-10T16:04:58.627+02:002010-02-10T16:04:58.627+02:00yoni becker, you played in Mike's Place. Do y...yoni becker, you played in Mike's Place. Do you know him?Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-77750808422426194182010-02-10T16:01:11.552+02:002010-02-10T16:01:11.552+02:00JBecker: While Israelis will be totally amazing wi...JBecker: While Israelis will be totally amazing with chessed and opening up their homes to strangers in need, etc -- they aren't stupid enough to be FRIARS and give money to convicted swindlers.<br /><br />The Dutchman probably didn't read this blog before handing over the money.<br /><br />Abbi: Now, now, the JPost didn't ay there were homeless. I think the term they wished you used was "destitute". Though if they had, they may have been eligible for more emergency compensation from the US embassy. I wrote to them asking for clarification on that matter...<br /><br />What I find interesting is that they needed a "courtesy" photo -- they had nothing of them on facebook/linkedin/anywhere else?Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-7094900507804385082010-02-10T15:45:59.989+02:002010-02-10T15:45:59.989+02:00btw, there's only one non-jewish "dutchma...btw, there's only one non-jewish "dutchman" i'll accept moral lessons from. you know who you are, penguin. :)jonathan beckernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-89178304896586514162010-02-10T15:41:41.282+02:002010-02-10T15:41:41.282+02:00oh, now they're "homeless"? and keep...oh, now they're "homeless"? and keeping a "posed portrait on your person" is somehow suspicious? really, what is UP with you people? i certainly didn't imagine myself defending this guy and his shady past and his "second" wife (nice how they slipped that in), but this is just gross. where is the zionism? where are the jewish hearts? it took some DUTCHMAN to help them out, for cring out loud. is no one embarassed by this? i'm not saying paying off the debt in question straight out was necessarily the right thing to do, but since when do we have to be taught moral lessons by the goyim? it's a shanda. the attitude of a lot of people here (including you, jameel, sorry) stinks.jonathan beckernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-553305098787489912010-02-10T15:03:20.150+02:002010-02-10T15:03:20.150+02:00The photo credit says "Courtesy" on both...The photo credit says "Courtesy" on both articles. I'm fascinated that this poor homeless couple happened to have a nice posed portrait of themselves on their persons. Because I always make sure to keep a portrait like that with me at all times. :/Commenter Abbihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07753256568022159103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-37256157556638958042010-02-10T14:34:10.772+02:002010-02-10T14:34:10.772+02:00oh, i see. "artscroll" is saying we CAN ...oh, i see. "artscroll" is saying we CAN all be tom hanks. wrong, wrong, wrong. positive thinking is a disease. i guess artscroll won't hire me after all.jonathan beckernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-38934299553590140972010-02-10T14:31:10.322+02:002010-02-10T14:31:10.322+02:00tell me you're joking about an artscroll "...tell me you're joking about an artscroll "terminal". i don't know where you got that quote but it's just saying what i already said. (fishing for a job at artscroll...)jonathan beckernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-52681866665844425272010-02-10T13:48:47.268+02:002010-02-10T13:48:47.268+02:00Shira wrote: C'mon - leftist traitors don'...Shira wrote: <i>C'mon - leftist traitors don't necessarily write poorly, you just don't like what they write.</i><br /><br />I'll have to agree with Shira. I may not agree with anything Noami Chazan writes, but her sentence structure, diction, syntax and vocabulary is well above a 16 in the Gunning Fog Index.Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-16634243558116807472010-02-10T13:46:21.730+02:002010-02-10T13:46:21.730+02:00JBecker: Of course Tom Hanks is a gadol! The Arts...JBecker: Of course Tom Hanks is a gadol! The Artscroll version of Terminal is coming out soon.<br /><br />"Terminal is a moshol for Olam Hazeh, as we all await our final destination. The question is, how do we, as human beings, passengers, pass or time stranded here at the "Terminal", planet Earth, Olam HaZeh. Do we take out our frustrations on everyone and run to the papers with half baked allegations, or do we accept them and cheerfully make the best of a challenging situation..."<br /><br />Of course, Tom Hanks didn't suffer the indignity of the Israeli Police...Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-22815740182784528012010-02-10T13:39:21.301+02:002010-02-10T13:39:21.301+02:00"...the over-all content is at the level of a..."...the over-all content is at the level of a high school newspaper, plenty of unprofessional hacks, stories picked up from AP & Reuters verbatim, & leftist traitors like...."<br /><br />C'mon - leftist traitors don't necessarily write poorly, you just don't like what they write.Shiranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-84450517375381230292010-02-10T12:51:32.175+02:002010-02-10T12:51:32.175+02:00Okay, let's assume they were planning on makin...Okay, let's assume they were planning on making aliya. <br /><br />1. Who just shows up at Ben Gurion assuming that their aliya is approved? Aliya is a process. The fact that he just got on a plane tells me that he's running away from the US.<br /><br />2. Where were they planning to stay that they were "forced to stay in a number of hotels?" I don't know any olim who were magically given a place to stay upon arrival at the airport. If they received rooms at a merkaz klita, it was arranged many many months in advance.<br /><br />3. Sorry, not believing the miscarriage. Either it was a chemical pregnancy - i.e. so early that it requires no medical attention, or she would have passed out from blood loss and someone would have called an ambulance and someone would have paid for it - Jews are kind-hearted.<br /><br />4. If he has all these business contacts in Israel and planned menus and all that, how come nobody was willing to let them stay at their house for a few nights?! I can honestly say that if pretty much any of my former co-workers showed up needing a place to crash for a few nights, I'd find a place, except for the one or two I strongly dislike/distrust.Leah Goodmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16546935038863589318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-16098162548507410952010-02-10T12:47:00.278+02:002010-02-10T12:47:00.278+02:00by the way i saw "terminal". i don't...by the way i saw "terminal". i don't think you could say the tom hanks character was "living happily" at the airport, he just kept an amazingly dogged and positive attitude- which i think was the point of the movie. we can't all be tom hanks. "tom hanks is a gadol. your argument is invalid." ")jonathan beckernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-51432282445502655242010-02-10T12:37:37.762+02:002010-02-10T12:37:37.762+02:00sorry that was mesorry that was mejonathan beckernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-20559971528240321462010-02-10T12:36:54.574+02:002010-02-10T12:36:54.574+02:00as for your other question, " What sort of pe...as for your other question, " What sort of person comes on vacation without traveler's/medical insurance?", it's not at all clear this was a "vacation" and anyway, do you need me to paint you a picture? c'mon, you've got a gomorra kop. there are plenty of scenarios where a "visitor" to israel might not have travel insurance, and it's anyway questionable is such insurance would have been helpful. a sudden miscarriage brought on by stress- i mean, what can you do? would such insurance pay for 5 days in a hotel? i'm not sure where you're going with this, really.<br /><br />btw, full disclosure- i think i might know this guy, by sight anyway. i used to play music at mikes place a lot. i didn't get to know the kitchen staff- i keep kosher b"h- but i'd probably recognize him if i saw him. it's a small kitchen and a small place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-62201267658611705622010-02-10T12:29:11.066+02:002010-02-10T12:29:11.066+02:00those travel restrictions are apparently on an ame...those travel restrictions are apparently on an american citizen, btw, and not an israel, further complicating matters and raising the potential cost to the israeli taxpayer exponentially. if, as you seem to imply, he's actually not a masken but a smooth operator, he could get lawyered up and potentially cost you and me a lot more than he seems to be wort either way. even if he can't hire a lawyer, the fact that this is an international issue means that ngo's and ambulance chasers would be dying to get involved. or am i way off here?jonathan beckernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-78782646940774983462010-02-10T12:26:26.762+02:002010-02-10T12:26:26.762+02:00http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=168322...http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=168322<br /><br />This article seems to be a bit more related to reality. Apparently they tried to make aliya and were rejected but decided to come anyway. mistake #1. <br />Apparently the miscarriage was a bid for sympathy, as it's entirely left out of the second article.<br /><br />I still think there's more b.s. here.Leah Goodmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16546935038863589318noreply@blogger.com