tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post933062555417933054..comments2024-03-27T07:01:13.725+02:00Comments on The Muqata: This isn't a joke - Obama wins Nobel Peace PriceJameel @ The Muqatahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-5114990301447474462009-10-13T01:24:02.938+02:002009-10-13T01:24:02.938+02:00BOTH:
Nope. They're all religious (a few are ...BOTH:<br /><br />Nope. They're all religious (a few are open Hamas supporters - that's always interesting when they knock on the door, and that's also why I always carry the gun), so they won't go near alcohol. And they all work in construction (at least by me they do).<br /><br />It's amazing. They all want to move to America. Even the rich ones. I could sit with them for hours every day and they will lap up every word about how great America is.<br /><br />It actually doesn't take much convincing - but getting the Visa or Green Card, that's the real problem.JoeSettlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01232647820807408898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-49750997420630788182009-10-13T00:22:15.133+02:002009-10-13T00:22:15.133+02:00and I'm convincing them all to move to America...<b>and I'm convincing them all to move to America ... </b><br /><br />Oh crapp! So you're the *&&hole increasing the number of liquor store owners with violent bigoted kids in San Francisco!<br /><br />Stop doing that immediately!<br /><br />Convince them to move to Yemen instead. All the Yemenite liquor store owners are in Oakland, so there must be opportunity a-plenty in Aden.The back of the hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05564245223453467132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-73391247282168489282009-10-12T22:57:15.272+02:002009-10-12T22:57:15.272+02:00Jameel: At least the current government passed a ...Jameel: <i>At least the current government passed a 2 year budget.</i><br /><br />That wasn't very nice.<br /><br />You know, members of the Nobel Prize committee might be reading this blog. Now you've ruined Bibi's chances...Lurkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02712938121915827845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-84311562381979210622009-10-12T22:48:34.290+02:002009-10-12T22:48:34.290+02:00Barak is "Efes Echat Shtayim" while
Livn...Barak is "Efes Echat Shtayim" while<br />Livni is "Efes Echad Gadol."<br /><br />At least the current government passed a 2 year budget.Jameel @ The Muqatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890095633246557332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-38190637760722595312009-10-12T22:45:48.854+02:002009-10-12T22:45:48.854+02:00tafka pp: I've decided that I think I deserve...tafka pp: <i>I've decided that I think I deserve one too- at least I actually work towards coexistence!</i><br /><br />JoeSettler: <i>I also deserve to win one. I talk with my Arab neighbors all the time, I provide some of them with honorable work...</i><br /><br />I'll settle this:<br /><br />Neither of you deserve one, and the fact that you claim to point to things you've done is precisely the reason why.<br /><br />Barack Obama got one for doing nothing -- something in which both of you have already publicly admitted failure. (According to some analysts, he got it for not being George W. Bush -- so the both of you might still have a shot at it next year if you properly revamp your arguments in that direction.)<br /><br />On the other hand, according to <a href="http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3789004,00.html" rel="nofollow">her Knesset speech today</a>, opposition leader Tzipi Livni seems to think that PM Netanyahu is deserving of a Nobel Prize:<br /><br /><i>"Nine months have passed since the government was established, and it has indeed met its main objective –- you have managed to survive. This is the Israeli government's main accomplishment.<br /> <br />"The second accomplishment, and unfortunately this is how you see it, Mr. Prime Minister, is that <b>you have managed as prime minister to do nothing</b>."</i><br /> <br />Someone ought to investigate Livni's claim. If she is correct, then there may be a Nobel in the offing for Bibi...Lurkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02712938121915827845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-87510955252921793932009-10-12T22:44:07.455+02:002009-10-12T22:44:07.455+02:00JoeSettler: Did you know that Snoopy is a beagle?...JoeSettler: <i>Did you know that Snoopy is a beagle?</i><br /><br />Indeed he is. And he was born on the (illegal) Daisy Hill Puppy Farm Settlement.<br /><br />(Although, in the strip from December 5, 1960, he asserted, "I ain't no stupid beagle!")Lurkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02712938121915827845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-58548399648400782552009-10-12T21:41:29.541+02:002009-10-12T21:41:29.541+02:00Did you know that Snoopy is a beagle?
I also dese...Did you know that Snoopy is a beagle?<br /><br />I also deserve to win one. I talk with my Arab neighbors all the time, I provide some of them with honorable work, and I'm convincing them all to move to America (for Peace) where they will have a President they respect and who respects them in return.JoeSettlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01232647820807408898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-76008075477850685242009-10-12T21:14:48.560+02:002009-10-12T21:14:48.560+02:00RRW: ...its interesting to note that the UK Gaurd...RRW: <i>...its interesting to note that the UK Gaurdian 'accidently' left out the Israeli prize winners - Begin, Peres and Rabin ... luckilly there was an outcry and it was corrected...</i><br /><br />Take a look at the comments about this over <a href="http://www.thejc.com/blogpost/the-guardians-explanation-piffle" rel="nofollow">here</a>.Lurkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02712938121915827845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-72793647978685580132009-10-12T11:47:33.738+02:002009-10-12T11:47:33.738+02:00Joe- I'm not going anywhere, so it's all g...Joe- I'm not going anywhere, so it's all good. <br /><br />Lurker- it was a general comment about his political/LandOfIsrael posts- I don't find Joe any more anti-Obama than the next M16 wielding Snoopy. (Sorry, if that's the wrong gun!)<br /><br />BTW- even the Guardian seems to think that his Nobel Peace Prize was ridiculous. I've decided that I think I deserve one too- at least I actually work towards coexistence!tafka ppnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-13226066352994944762009-10-12T09:42:14.467+02:002009-10-12T09:42:14.467+02:00Lisa: I think the Nobel Prize is an honor for the...Lisa: <i>I think the Nobel Prize is an honor for the President and our country. Hopefully, this means we can end the war.</i><br /><br />That's kind of like giving an Oscar to a director-wannabe who hasn't even made a film yet (let alone a <i>good</i> film), and saying: "Now that he has an Oscar, hopefully, this means he can make a good movie."Lurkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02712938121915827845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-8006222504697123772009-10-12T09:34:32.267+02:002009-10-12T09:34:32.267+02:00"You're right about Carter. But Nixon'..."You're right about Carter. But Nixon's arms airlift in the YK War quite likely saved Israel's existence. (As a side-effect though, it's the reason Israeli leaders have paid attention to US demands ever since then, usually to Israel's detriment.)"<br /><br />The armslift was very important, and is a vivid example of Nixon's pragmatism.<br /><br />In terms of human life and freedom, however, there is another realm beyond the armslift: Human rights in foreign policy. Here the Nixon-Kissinger "pragmatism" was almost exclusively harmful to the "tzelem elokim" that is humankind. Think Russia and China. That is what I was referring to.<br /><br />We today have 1.5 million free, productive citizens of the State of Israel (25% Russian immigrants) because people like Nixon and Carter (on the right and the left) were replaced by administrations that valued life and freedom (e.g. Reagan) or at least saw the political need to respect them.The only answer is Latmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-57536539026255003542009-10-12T09:28:11.125+02:002009-10-12T09:28:11.125+02:00Normally I read The Muqata for Jameel and Lurker&#...<i>Normally I read The Muqata for Jameel and Lurker's opinion.<br /><br />They don't just salivate and bite anything left of Kahana like JoeSettler does</i><br /><br />"Lurker's opinion. They don't just..."<br /><br />I don't think this Anonymous really reads this blog very well or that often if he actually wrote that.JoeSettlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01232647820807408898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-73084289438956545142009-10-12T07:41:30.141+02:002009-10-12T07:41:30.141+02:00Given the state of mind of the people who decided ...Given the state of mind of the people who decided to give Obama the Nobel Prize, I think the reference may have been to the war on drugs.Lurkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02712938121915827845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-62569476368368177172009-10-12T07:05:46.360+02:002009-10-12T07:05:46.360+02:00That would be the war on terror? The war in Afghan...That would be the war on terror? The war in Afghanistan? The war in Iraq? The Iranian threat of nuclear war?<br />And how exactly would a Nobel Prize help end a war?ODannyBoynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-76340813587423343002009-10-12T03:43:25.296+02:002009-10-12T03:43:25.296+02:00I think the Nobel Prize is an honor for the Presid...I think the Nobel Prize is an honor for the President and our country. Hopefully, this means we can end the war.Lisahttp://www.vacationrentalsad.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-34851817457635627762009-10-11T19:35:56.583+02:002009-10-11T19:35:56.583+02:00Please. Keep doing so.Please. Keep doing so.JoeSettlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01232647820807408898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-20145103057377571792009-10-11T16:29:06.340+02:002009-10-11T16:29:06.340+02:00Normally I read The Muqata for Jameel and Lurker&#...Normally I read The Muqata for Jameel and Lurker's opinion. <br /><br />They don't just salivate and bite anything left of Kahana like JoeSettler does, and they can eloquently make a point without resorting to nastiness.<br /><br />Frankly, JoeSettler's posts are for ignoring or comic relief.<br /><br />I'll keep reading...and ignoring JoeIrishSettler<br /><br />woof.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-35701481379258443482009-10-11T16:12:32.555+02:002009-10-11T16:12:32.555+02:00"He is far more dangerous than Nixon and Cart..."He is far more dangerous than Nixon and Carter combined,"<br /><br />You're right about Carter. But Nixon's arms airlift in the YK War quite likely saved Israel's existence. (As a side-effect though, it's the reason Israeli leaders have paid attention to US demands ever since then, usually to Israel's detriment.)Shlomonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-49104770778010656002009-10-11T14:57:41.136+02:002009-10-11T14:57:41.136+02:00tafka pp: Lurker- just on the subject of LW peopl...tafka pp: <i>Lurker- just on the subject of LW people who find this blog too much and would like to leave- I can't cope with most of what Joe writes here either, but you and Jameel generally provide the interesting counterbalance to the Guardian...</i><br /><br />Thank you for the kind words.<br /><br />Regarding JoeSettler -- I trust that whatever your objections to his views, they do not extend to this particular post. After all, objections to Obama's suitability for the Nobel Peace Prize have been coming from nearly <i>all</i> quarters, and certainly not just the right. I just read a number of articles questioning the committee's decision on left-wing sites like the <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-russnow/barack-obama-nobel-peace_b_314899.html" rel="nofollow">Huffington Post</a>, the <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/10/9/791366/-Not-Really-Obamas-Nobel-Peace-Prize" rel="nofollow">Daily Kos</a>, and <a href="http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/10/09/obama-wins-nobel-peace-prize-ok-hes-a-nice-guy-but/" rel="nofollow">Andy Worthington</a>. Arianna Huffington, in fact, has been loudly <a href="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1253627556151&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull" rel="nofollow">criticizing Obama</a> for some time now (from the left, of course) for his failure to keep almost any of his campaign promises -- as have many other serious left-wing bloggers. With criticism of the Nobel committee's decision coming from places like <a href="http://dovbear.blogspot.com/2009/10/barrys-prize.html" rel="nofollow">DovBear</a>, the Huffington Post, the Daily Kos, Andy Worthington, and even <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3HEmUAKWjE" rel="nofollow">SNL</a>, I presume you'd agree that there's no basis for singling out JoeSettler for criticism here.<br /><br />P.S.: It's difficult to avoid mentioning, btw, that <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28135.html" rel="nofollow">according to the DNC</a>, the leftist authors of all the above cited blog posts have all "thrown in [their] lot with the terrorists - the Taliban and Hamas" -- just because they dared to raise questions regarding the wisdom of the Nobel committee's decision. Wouldn't you say that <i>that</i> tops anything JoeSettler has ever written here for sheer outrageousness and stupidity?<br /><br />In any case, I'm glad that you do read this blog. Regardless of some of the nasty comments left by some people above, I much prefer to write things for a critical audience, rather than just "preaching to the choir".Lurkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05516196101946513020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-19087243498616904602009-10-11T14:34:53.810+02:002009-10-11T14:34:53.810+02:00If you value human life and human freedom, then it...If you value human life and human freedom, then it is clear that Obama is by far the worst president we have had in a very long time.<br /><br />He is far more dangerous than Nixon and Carter combined, both of whom went to extremes in their willingness to coddle dictators, and to abandon the oppressed to their mercy of their oppressors (Nixon for pragmatic reasons, Carter for ideological ones).<br /><br />It's not a Republican or Democratic thing. It's a moral thing. And for quite some time (decades) the farthest thing possible from human life and human freedom has been the Scandinavians and their appeasement prize.<br /><br />http://www.latma.co.il/The only answer is Latmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-88688299079063698322009-10-11T14:10:42.467+02:002009-10-11T14:10:42.467+02:00I have an idea for the title of a commentary on Ob...I have an idea for the title of a commentary on Obama's winning the Nobel Prize.<br /><br />The title is "Me-Nobel B'rishut Hatorah" playing, of course, on the phrase "Menuval B'rishut Hatorah" (a rogue who finds a loophole in Torah law to do something despicable).<br /><br />Any suggestions on where to take this thought?Gee a Moronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00049652650047347640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-45080596414990174952009-10-11T13:52:29.337+02:002009-10-11T13:52:29.337+02:00Parrot: Yet you know it gives me so much pleasure ...Parrot: Yet you know it gives me so much pleasure to know you reading my posts anyway, even if you currently disagree with it.JoeSettlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01232647820807408898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-39980072584832836392009-10-11T11:22:06.547+02:002009-10-11T11:22:06.547+02:00To the Anonymous Mr. "Goodbye Jameel" (y...To the Anonymous Mr. "Goodbye Jameel" (yes, we know you're still there):<br /><br />Anonymous: <i>...do yourself a favor.<br />Read a different blog...<br />Yes, the choice of Obama for the Peace Prize is certainly unusual, but unless you really hate him, who really cares?</i><br /><br />Me: <i>If you think people ought to boycott blogs that say its totally ridiculous to award Obama the Nobel Peace Prize, and that his getting it is a cheap political stunt -- then you definitely should make sure to stay away from other RW extremist anti-Obama blogs like <a href="http://dovbear.blogspot.com/2009/10/barrys-prize.html" rel="nofollow">DovBear</a>, as well...</i><br /><br />While we're on the subject, you should also make sure to boycott <i>Saturday Night Live</i> as well. Last week, they <a href="http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/snl-spoofs-obama" rel="nofollow">skewered Obama</a> over the fact that he has accomplished nothing in almost a year, and last night they <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3HEmUAKWjE" rel="nofollow">lampooned his receipt of the Nobel Peace Prize</a>, which they said he got for not other reason than the fact that he "is not George W. Bush".<br /><br />Can you imagine? Look at all these people who "care" that Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. And as you put it so well, "unless you really hate him, who really cares?" So, obviously, then, DovBear and SNL must "really hate" him.<br /><br />Yes, you'd better get to work now keeping people away from DovBear and SNL.Lurkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05516196101946513020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-21296302202962334802009-10-11T10:59:18.448+02:002009-10-11T10:59:18.448+02:00Lurker- just on the subject of LW people who find ...Lurker- just on the subject of LW people who find this blog too much and would like to leave- I can't cope with most of what Joe writes here either, but you and Jameel generally provide the interesting counterbalance to the Guardian...tafka pphttp://goingslightlymad.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13539920.post-22858603946440225972009-10-11T08:11:39.483+02:002009-10-11T08:11:39.483+02:00If Obama's road to peace doesn't work, I s...<i>If Obama's road to peace doesn't work, I say follow the path of the biggest guns.</i><br /><br />Only problem with that idea is that Obama wants to significantly reduce the size of the US military, and dismantle as much of the the US's Nuclear arsenal as he can.<br /><br />At that point the biggest guns will not be owned by the US, only pointed at them.AnOnYmOuSnoreply@blogger.com