Sunday, October 09, 2005

Refusing Disengagment Orders: The Untold Story

After the Disengagement was finally over, the IDF and Prime Minister's office gave "grand" accounts of the total number of IDF soliders who refused orders. Over and over again the media drummed into our heads, "a total of 63 soldiers refused to participate in the 'Disengagement'" -- it wasn't that big a deal....only 63.

For the life of me, I could not understand these numbers at all. I know lots of soldiers who had refused, and wondered how it could all add up to 63. Arutz Sheva's weekend newspaper, B'Sheva did an in-depth report on the subject, and found out the following amazing information that Sharon and the IDF would rather you didn't know.

50% of the Golani infantry brigade refused to participate
25% of the Tzanchanim/Paratrooper brigade refused
20% of the Givati infantry brigade refused
10's of percentages of officer's course training cadets refused

The entire Nachal Chareidi battalion wasn't even asked by the IDF, as they said, "if you require us to participate in the expulsion, you will find an entire battalion that will also need to be expelled."

Bottom line; close to 6000 soldiers refused to take part, in any matter, shape or form with Sharon's Disengagement plan.

Who did participate?


  • IAF pilots were told they had to participate; refusal would mean immediate suspension and no aviation job in the commercial industry (can’t be an ELAL pilot, if you were thrown out of the IAF).
  • Career soldiers; These soldiers have been in the IDF 10 or more years, with families and mortgages, and refusal would mean immediate discharge from the IDF, loss of pension and severance pay.
  • Police: (same as above).


Granted, I'm sure there were a good 20% that enjoyed throwing Jews out of their homes, which probably translates into the same 20% of Israeli Jews that specifically eat chametz on Pesach.

The big question is: This Yom Kippur, do I have to forgive every Jew, for their wrongdoings?

I guess we should ask for the entire Jewish people, including the above to be inscribed in the Book of Life, so that those who committed the above atrocities can be tried and punished by the Jewish people, and can live out their jail sentences, ad meah v'esrim -- till they reach 120, behind bars.

12 comments:

Cosmic X said...

I read the story too.

"The IDF female soldiers who sunbathed topless in Gaza settlements, while Jews were being evicted from their homes"

Wow. I did not hear about this. I find it hard to believe. What's the source for it?

Anonymous said...

Wow, the pictures at
www.NEVER4GET.net are frightening! Are they real? Scary!!

Jameel @ The Muqata said...

Cosmic: Here's the link:

http://www.fresh.co.il/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=97752&highlight=%E7%E9%E9%EC%E5%FA

Saturn said...

Jameel,

From your list of "unforgiveables" you forgot to mention all of the Rabbis who depend on the governemnt for their positions, their salaries, and their pensions, almost all of whom paskened that you can't refuse orders from the Gov't. Conflict of interest? Naah!

Cosmic X said...

Jameel,

According to the link they were not topless (they wore their underwear and bras). In any case their behavior was raunchy.

Jameel @ The Muqata said...

CosmicX: In the original reports, they were topless. I'm more inclined to believe the original report -- and the later one was toned down to not look as bad in the press. (Even though, IMHO, their behaviour was reprehensible, and worthy of inclusion in my list above, dontchya think?)

Cosmic X said...

Reprehensible for sure.

tafka PP said...

"The policemen/women who wore black uniforms and carried riot gear to put fear into the hearts of the Jewish settlers; men, women and children"

That's a pretty unforgiving interpretation of that particular order, Jameel...

Gmar Chatima Tova.

Jameel @ The Muqata said...

TAFKAPP: The police commanders stated that the exact intention of the black uniforms was "to put shock and awe" into the settlers/protestors. My interpretation is stated fact from the Police. I think that the order of wearing black uniforms is odious, and carrying out that order is sad. Do you disagree that I should be unforgiving -- to those that gave the order, those that carried it out, or should I forgive some/none/all?

I don't have all the answers, but this summer was mighty awful. An IDF Machat I met last week said flat out that the orders given to the IDF this summer were "arurim" - cursed. Maybe I can/should forgive the soldiers, but the politicians who gave them?

Gmar Chatima Tova to you as well, and may we merit a much better year than this past one.

tafka PP said...

My. In that respect, I can totally see why you would sound unforgiving. Until I read your comment just now, I hadn't heard that about the Black uniforms: I'd heard and read that they wore black especially so as not to confuse the children who were used to "Green" soldiers, and thus go against the rhetoric emerging from many sources that the army was evil for following the order; and also as a sign of their overall identification with the sombre and mournful nature of such an unpleasant task. From the few soldiers I know who took part, this was definitely not something they enjoyed at all (even the ones with very lefty politics).

You are right, it has been an awful, awful year and we are all left with a lot of questions. I second your wish for a brighter future for all of us! Meantime, enjoy the Super...

muse said...

And the soldiers who avoided duty by being abroad...

Cosmic X said...

Purpleparrot.

If you are still around, read this with regards to those black uniforms.

Jameel,

With regards to forgiving ... tough question.

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