Thursday, September 08, 2011

Social Justice?

Not for the faint-hearted (I couldn't watch to the end myself).

The Migron Destruction the other night.



Where's the social justice?

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20 comments:

rrW said...

Never forget, never forgive -
treat those who "only followed orders" just like Nazi's -
Shame on Mishteret Israel !
Shame on Tzahal !
Shame on Medinat Israel !

Anonymous said...

Shameful.
It made me sick.

Anonymous said...

I am Dor Sheni....these images could have been Nazis (instead of fellow Jews/Israelis) dragging Jews, hitting Jews, and destroying their homes in the middle of the night. So, then where is the real Israel? The fashionable Tel Aviv? The popular Galilee area for tourists? No, the real Israel is the biblical Judea and Samaria where we belong, too...All of Israel is Israel, but why are we not privy to it? Because we want to be politically correct? Because those who run this government are really self-loathing Jews? I am neither politically correct, nor do I suffer from Jewish self-hate disorder. I am just sad, beyond sad because this was not the Israel I envisioned when I made Aliyah, and I don't think this was the Israel that was envisioned by those who fought, bled, and died in her wars for independence and freedom. While these "social justice tent dwelling trouble-makers" get all the attention, no one really cares about these poor people, the "real Jews" who risk their lives to live in Yesha, where we also most certainly belong, and not just in Haifa, Tel Aviv, Netanya and all the "acceptable places." There is no real "social justice" there is only despair to observe what Israel has become, and how low her morals regarding fellow Jews have sunk, and it leaves me feeling sad and empty at the same time. There will be no Shanah Tovah for these homeless families. Our government should be very, very ashamed.

yaak said...

Karl, you cannot steal what belongs to you.
You cannot be called an occupier of your own land.
Until the consecutive Israeli governments since 1967 understand this, this cannot be understood by our enemies, the international community, or little old commenter Karl either.
The worst Hasbara is events like this, which sends mixed messages to everyone.

This video is so sad. Hashem should have mercy upon them and may they return to their land in rebuilt homes speedily.

Karl said...

Yaak: The whole world and most sane Israelis know that the occupation is wrong. Forget all the crap about "who it belongs to" since the Jews never lived in the West Bank for the past 2000 years. Instead, Palestinians lived there, and you are stealing their land and water all in the name of God and the Bible.

Get over it already, the world is against you and apartheid occupation. This video wasn't made by the ISM, it was made by Jews.

yaak said...

Karl, learn history before spewing your nonsense and total out-and-out lies.
The world being against us is actually an encouraging sign. But I don't expect you or your ilk to understand.

Karl said...

Yaak: Actually, its very encouraging because it means the end of an unnecessary apartheid regime. Then Israel can go back to being a light unto the nations.

A Palestinian State is good for everyone, and is supported by almost everyone, including Israelis. You and this whole blog are delusional if you think otherwise.

jl said...

Yaak,
While I dont agree with Karl, it happens to be that Migron was built on stolen land from private individuals.
This has been proven again and again. It was supposed to have been dismantled already in 2002, and only the fates kept it around until now.

Religious connection to the land or not, as law-abiding citizens we are required to follow and uphold legal decisions, and challenge them appropriately.

I am only halfway through the video, and while I have been there several times, it is hard to find remorse for the parents of the little children depicted. If they actually cared, perhaps they would have moved somewhere that wasnt on the verge of eviction for almost 10 years...

Karl said...

jl: Of course it's stolen land from private individuals. That's why the State of Israel build infrastructure for Migron, in order for the State to continue its colonialist occupation.

Its not the settlers alone that have stolen the land, it was the Israeli government that pushed for Migron.

Kudos to Peace Now for succeeding in getting at least these 3 families gone.

A fan of Karl said...

Karl: The settlers deserve it for stealing land from the Palestinians and for the ongoing occupation.

Hoo-yeah! Damn straight they deserve it -- especially the kids! I'm with Karl all they way, kudos to him for saying it like it is. I particularly like how they burst in suddenly in the middle of the night to do it, screaming at the family to wake up and giving them 5 minutes to flee the house, before making them watch it get smashed to rubble. And I especially got a kick out of the way the big male cops manhandled the women and girls, rubbing up their bodies against them and making lewd comments. Serves those bitches right, they deserve it!

But the best part is the way they scare the living bejeezus out of the little kids. There's nothing that'll freak out a three-year-old better than getting woken up in the middle of the night by 50 strangers in black helmets and armor yelling in his face, and watching them beat the crap out of Mommy and Daddy. I hope it traumatizes those little settler-scum tykes for life; they've got it coming to them.

Karl: Actually, its very encouraging...

I agree 100%. I hope we have the pleasure of seeing a lot more encouraging videos like these!

A fan of Karl said...

Karl: Forget all the crap about "who it belongs to" since the Jews never lived in the West Bank for the past 2000 years. Instead, Palestinians lived there...

You tell 'em, Karl! It's amazing how far the Settlers will go to make people think that Jews lived in the West Bank for centuries. For example, I just ran across this article from some wacked-out extremist Settler publication called the Encyclopedia Judaica, that gives an entire detailed (but obviosuly fictional) history of the "Jewish community" in Hebron that allegedly existed over the course of more than a millennium! Read it for yourself, it's incredible what those encyclopedia people expect us to swallow! To make sure we believe them, they even went to the trouble of filling the article with dozens of (obviously fabricated) names, dates, and quotes from primary sources. What fools they take us for. But luckily, they don't fool educated people like Karl!

The article even claims that the Jewish community existed there until 1929 (you can't make this stuff up, you know?), when, it says, the community was forced to flee after an enormous massacre in which the Arab Muslims slaughtered 67 Jews, and raped and maimed dozens more. What a load of BS! They actually expect us to believe that (a) Jews were living there, in a city smack in the middle of the West Bank, for centuries (yeah, right!), and that (b) Muslim Arabs killed them even though this was decades before the Illegal Israeli Occupation! Obviously a lie, since, as people like Karl and I know, Arabs only kill Jews now because of their Uncontrollable Rage over the Occupation -- and there was no Occupation back then.

Thank goodness for enlightened, educated folks like Karl, without whom unsuspecting people might actually start believing that there were Jews living in the West Bank for the last few millennia.

yaak said...

Karl,

The answer to all your question is simple:

Because those people don't learn Torah or history.

It's a crying shame that they don't know either, but it's a fact. The majority (of the world - not of Israel), in this case, is in the wrong. As are the other religions of the world, for comparison's sake. It's one of those cases where the few are true and the numerous are just humorous. The real usurpers are the so-called Palestinians, who usurped it from the nation to whom G-d gave it. And that includes Migron as well. Learn Torah and history and then come back here and see who the real idiots are.

Karl = Lark said...

So ...Taking your last comment apart...

"Idiots: Big deal: a tiny community of Jews in Hebron vs. hundreds of thousands of Palestinians." -- oh ok - so you are saying that jewish blood is cheap ? or that 10000 pals = 1 jew ?
Notice you say Jew and not Israeli - it shows you are a true AntiSemite.


"If you are so smart, then why are so many Israelis and Jews against you? "
1. Because they are Idiots.
2. They have been fed leftist crap by the media.

"If your history is so just, why does the Israeli government tear down your homes? "
Thats a good question. I'll have to go with you on that one. Probably to appease the leftists ahead of the UN vote.

"If the West Bank was really yours, why did you return parts of it in the Oslo Accords? "
Nothing was returned. We gave autonomy to the Palestinian Authority in the Oslo accords. Which by the way, most are declaring null and void.

"If its really yours, why are there so many Jewish and Israeli groups that say you stole the land? "
See my previous answer above

"Let me guess, because everyone is stupid and you're the only smart one around?"
hmm - everyone said the world was flat a few hundred years ago ...

Karl said...

Lark:

1. You are the ones who return thousands of Arab POWs for one Israeli dead body of a soldier.

2. So it's all "Leftist Crap" by the media? Any other conspiracy theories to share? Was Kennedy also abducted by Space Aliens?

3. "Most are Declaring Null and Avoid"? HAHAHA. The Oslo process was the best thing to happen to Israel, and yes, the autonomous areas were given to the Palestinians as a basis for their state. Yossi Beilin has stated that many times. Even the IDF wants a Palestinian State. So who is smarter? You or the IDF? (It was reported last week in Yisrael Hayom).

4. So what is your solution for Apartheid? To annex the West Bank and make all the Palestinians happy campers as Israeli citizens? Give me a break.

You know I'm right, and you have no solution.

End the occupation.

Lark said...

I agree - end the occupation .... Send all the Arabs back to Jordan.

Amihai said...

Karl :

1. Because now it's us who fixed the price ? What a dumb comment !

2. Actually, what most of the leftists think (wrongly) is that while this land is actually ours, it's theirs too and they too have the right to be independant (and I agree with this last part - only not in Israel, not even in "Jordan", but in Arabia).
The few that are thinking otherwise are the same thinking that all the country should'nt even exist.

3. The best thing ? It's already half-dead and has been for 10 years. There have been more terrorism the few years after oslo than for 20 years before.
Beilin could have said what he want, it was clear even for Rabin that it never was about a state.
And I did'nt know that there is a soldier that represent the view of the whole IDF, could I meet him ?

4. "No great solution" doesn't force us to take one of the nasty one. The statut-quo without solution could be very well better.

Anonymous said...

Q. What is a Karl?

A. Nothing. A useless tool - "it" spews, it hates, it's ugly and it owns a computer.

Sometimes, you just don't dignify a question or a comment with a response.

Jonah 4:11 said...

"Should I not have compassion on Nineveh, the great city in which there are more than 120,000 persons who do not know the difference between their right and left hand, as well as many animals?"

Numbers don't equate to being morally right. Or even to intelligence.

Cliff in Modiin said...

brilliant video ... next stop Efrat

The Settlers will bear responsibility for the destruction of the State of Ísrael

babawawa said...

To Karl and friends, the tip of the day (don't thank me, I'm a giver):

"Don't steal someone's land (that would be the Jews) who are still around to kick your ass (that would be the Arabs) and take it back."

The Jews are indigenous to Israel, have the DNA of a middle eastern people (including your garden variety Ashkenazi) and all the lefties in the world aren't going to change that. My advice Karl: get new friends and lay low. The day of reckoning is real soon.

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