Monday, October 05, 2009

Obama's website compares Israel to Nazis

Lurker found this piece of pure anti-Semitism on Barack Obama's Organizing for America blog. As far as I can tell, this blog, which is a project of the Democratic National Committee, and calls itself the official successor to the Obama for America campaign, is fine with it.

The post is called Nazi Israel … Indeed and barely a paragraph goes by which doesn't call Israel and Israelis Nazis.

[UPDATE: Following the negative publicity, the Obama people took the post down. But you can still see it here, in Google's cache.]

This wonderful post includes gems like:

"Professor Falk had a little taste of Israel’s Nazi-like crimes"

"Comparing the present-day Israel with Nazi Germany one discovers that the majority of the Israeli policies are the exact copies of the Nazi policies."

"Israel is, still up till today, carrying these same genocidal Nazi-like holocaustal crimes"

"Worse than the Nazis the Israeli army had adopted the policy of targeting young Palestinian children"

And it finishes off with:

"Israelis and Jews of the world have relentlessly pursued Nazi war criminals for decades for their war crimes committed during WWII. They chased Nazi war criminals for the rest of their lives, even when they were old and close to their death, to make them pay for their crimes. No doubts in my mind that Israeli war criminals, in turn, will be pursued and sentenced for their war crimes committed against Arabs."


Now the site has a disclaimer that says, "Content on blogs in My.BarackObama represents the opinions of community members and in no way should be interpreted as endorsed or approved by the campaign."


While I'm sure that line provides good legal cover and distance, is anti-Semitic Nazi drivel like this really what Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee really want to be seen as representing?

(Maybe?)

Regardless of the disclaimer, these are people they've chosen to associate with and allow to post on their blog.


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54 comments:

ProfK said...

The link is not working--it comes up invalid page request. Gee, wonder if someone finally noticed that this might be "bad" for Obama and took down the post?!

Anonymous said...

It's a site where anybody can blog. Stop tilting at windmills and smearing Obama. Antisemitism is plenty real, but Obama is not antisemitic. You just hurt the cause with your craziness.

Anonymous said...

Correct link is /my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/lechbajan/gGxKnn.

The post is still up. While the blog is an "open forum", it is at least in theory moderated, and it's surprising that Obama's organization would want to be associated with this type of discourse.

Happy and Proud said...

If you're going to let "anyone" write on your website, you'd better be prepared to take the heat of what "anyone" says.

Especially if you're the president.

Mark said...

Adopting the twisted logic used here ("Obama's website compares Israel to Nazis") one could say that Google is accountable for all the opinions expressed by The Muqata since his blog is hosted by Blogspot.

If you disapprove of President Obama's policies or of his party's policies in general, address those policies in a serious manner. But going off the deep end and espousing just blind hatred is not going to convince anyone of your ideas.... you're just preaching to the choir.

the junior said...

You're right: people use an open blog like that to espouse vile and racist policies.
Almost as vile and racist as Lieberman's, in fact ...
Having a Foreign Minister who's a bigot rather undermines Israel's ability to complain about bigotry.

Neshama said...

I found it here:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/lechbajan/gGxKnn

Lurker said...

Fixed the link.

Lurker said...

Mark: Adopting the twisted logic used here ("Obama's website compares Israel to Nazis") one could say that Google is accountable for all the opinions expressed by The Muqata since his blog is hosted by Blogspot.

Wow, that's a pretty stupid analogy. The site's domain name is BarackObama.com. If you fail to grasp the significance of that, then consider the site's description of itself: An "organization... building on the movement that elected President Obama... to bring about our agenda of change... to fight for a new kind of politics... to pursue the real world change our country needs... [and to] stand with President Obama".

Anonymous: It's a site where anybody can blog.

I see. So if someone posts racist, white-supremacist, pro-KKK, pro-Nazi proganda there, you think it's going to remain up?

If you believe that, then you're pretty dumb.

(The antisemitic article linked to, btw, has been up on BarackObama.com since last December.)

Mark: If you disapprove of President Obama's policies or of his party's policies in general, address those policies in a serious manner. But going off the deep end and espousing just blind hatred...

If you followed this blog (or simply did a Google search), then you would know that this blog has addressed President Obama's policies in a serious manner. On many occasions.

The phrase "going off the deep end and espousing just blind hatred" is actually a perfect description of the article on BarackObama.com. The fact that you used that phrase not as a description of that vile, hate-filled article, but rather as a description of this post here on the Muqata, speaks volumes about yourself and the nature of your values.

Clearly, some people are very annoyed at the Muqata for having dared to inform the public that there exists vile, extremist, antisemitic content on Barack Obama's official website (and it has been allowed to remain there for almost a year). The lame, feeble excuses they come up with to excuse the website are, quite frankly, laughable. One cannot help but wonder if these people would offer the same excuses if a similar racist or antisemitic article appeared on GeorgeBush.com.

Anonymous said...

Lurker: Maybe stop whining about President Obama's "official" website.

Its not Obama's views, its just his website.

Its not like Obama vets every single posting on it, just like I'm sure the Muqata doesn't validate every posting.

It would seem the Muqata blog (or you) couldnt care less about accuracy, and you are much more intent on blaspheming President Obama.

He is clearly the best President the United States has had since Kennedy, and just because he CARES about the Palestinians doesn't mean you need to get so nasty.

JoeSettler said...

and you are much more intent on blaspheming President Obama.

And that's called breaking the Third Commandment.

Anonymous said...

DB - Its not Obama's views, its just his website.

It's not like Obama vets every single posting on it, just like I'm sure the Muqata doesn't validate every posting.


But since it *is* a moderated website, they apparently *do* vet everything they allow posted on it.

It would seem the Muqata blog (or you) couldn't care less about accuracy, and you are much more intent on blaspheming President Obama.

He is clearly the best President the United States has had since Kennedy, and just because he CARES about the Palestinians doesn't mean you need to get so nasty.


I think you greatly exaggerate here! So far, there are no significant accomplishments from this administration, and a goodly number of blunders and missteps. And what evidence do you have that "he CARES about the Palestinians"?

Mark

Lurker said...

Anonymous: Its not Obama's views, its just his website.

LOL. Thank you for that perfect example of the sort of lame, desperate spin-control that Obama's zombies churn out to defend their idol.

Anonymous: ...you are much more intent on blaspheming President Obama.

"Blaspheming" him, huh?

Now that really says it all, doesn't it?

No comment necessary.

Mark said...

Your response to everybody who disagrees with you is "stupid", "lol", "Obama's zombies" etc.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Look inside yourself, you KNOW that from day one, when you recognized that Obama differed with your opinions on key issues to you, you have viewed EVERYTHING he says and does in a negative light.

It IS possible to agree with a politician on some issues, and disagree on others, and most importantly to respect someone even when you disagree with them.

If your goal is to convince people of your opinion you would be wise to temper your anger. If your goal is to preach to the choir.... then you're right... I'm stupid.

Anonymous said...

I'd like to see them allow and leave up some anti-Obama postings on this site "where anyone can blog".

JoeSettler said...

Oh well, they took it down.


Israpundit discussed it with a screenshot.

And here is some interesting moderator comments he found on the BarackObama site.

Hmmm. Well Obama does have a known screening problem.

Lurker said...

Mark: Your response to everybody who disagrees with you is "stupid", "lol", "Obama's zombies" etc.

Sorry, but anyone who says that criticizing Obama is "blaspheming" him is a stupid zombie. The dictionary defines "blasphemy" as "a contemptuous or profane act, utterance, or writing concerning God or a sacred entity". That you would actually defend someone who deifies Barack Obama into such a sacred entity, that is capable of being "blasphemed", says plenty about you -- and it isn't complimentary.

Mark: Look inside yourself, you KNOW that from day one, when you recognized that Obama differed with your opinions on key issues to you, you have viewed EVERYTHING he says and does in a negative light.

Luckily, there's no need to speculate or examine my innards: If you want to know my views about Obama on "day one", then you can read them for yourself, right here. Any intelligent reader can read it, and judge for him/herself the accuracy of your claim that I had some sort of special bias against Obama from the beginning.

Mark: It IS possible to agree with a politician on some issues, and disagree on others...

Absolutely. And that's why I agree with Obama on some issues, and disagree on others.

Mark: ...and most importantly to respect someone even when you disagree with them.

True. But I lose a lot of respect (as any decent person ought to) for someone who associates and fraternizes, as does Obama, with some of the most vile, sick, Jew-haters out there (e.g., Rashid Kalili, Jeremiah Wright) -- and whose official website hosts this kind of nauseating antisemitic hate literature.

Lurker said...

JoeSettler: Oh well, they took it down.

Luckily, it lives on in Google's cache.

I updated the post.

ProfK said...

Could we possibly keep in mind that in the US one of our valued privileges is the right to criticize our President--he is not a divine appointee, just a man. If this website has his name on it, and it does, then any criticism of the content is perfectly legitimate. If the site is moderated, and it is, then moderators who allow to be posted comments which apply the term "Nazi" to Israel are clearly following site protocol. And because the President's name IS the raison d'etre for the site's being there, the final responsibility belongs to him. Ergo, criticizing him for the content is both justified and acceptable.

Here's another thing. As someone whose birth certificate reads "Loheiden Home Kampf, Bergen Belsen, Germany" I find it horrific that anyone, anywhere, can use the term "Nazi" outside of its original context. That term was well and truly taken by the inhuman monsters of the Third Reich. To "borrow" the term and use it outside of its context is a slap in the face for all those who suffered under the one and only Nazis, may their name be cursed for eternity. Our current administration had best learn that using the term out of context is going to get wrath poured down on their heads. They just might want to reconsider their protocols for their moderators.

Lurker said...

Anonymous spin doctor #1: It's a site where anybody can blog.

Anonymous spin doctor #2: Its not like Obama vets every single posting on it...

The above spin-control nonsense collapses completely after one sees what actually happened when someone tried posting some material on the Obama site that Obama's blog police didn't like -- as Israpundit discovered, and as JoeSettler cited above: As an experiment, Israpundit put up a blog posting on the site containing excerpts from Barack Obama's book Dreams From My Father, and from Michelle Obama's doctoral thesis -- that Obama's people would prefer not be seen.

The posting was deleted, and an email threatening to deactivate the account was sent -- all within five minutes.

The sick antisemitic post we cited here, however, was up for almost a year.

OK, all you Obama zombies and spin-doctors: Go ahead now and explain that away for us.

Lakewood Falling Down said...

HA! Lurker, since when do take the time to debate the brain washed? It's nice that you do. I hear Saturday Night Live is Obama bashing this week too. Will NBC be boycotted? Also, there have been reports on CBS radio that there are anti war protesters in front of the White House this week. No matter what who this president caves into, he just can’t seem to win.

Lurker said...

Anonymous: I'd like to see them allow and leave up some anti-Obama postings on this site "where anyone can blog".

I'd say Israpundit resolved that question pretty conclusively...

Jack said...

ProfK is correct on all accounts.

Lurker said...

Anonymous @ 11:00 PM: DB - Its not Obama's views, its just his website.

How did you know that the "anti-blasphemer" was DB?

Just curious...

Anonymous said...

1. Bibi Netanyahu is a racist who doesn't like pygmies because he was once short.
2.Yitzchak Rabin was a secret communist who was once in the employ of the KGB.
3.Jameel uses Palestinians for kindling.
Now, I realize that you would like to delete remarks one and three and perhaps find a way to confirm the validity of number 2, but nonetheless, there are presently up on the Muqata site, and if someone can show them to someone else before they are deleted, expurgated, or denied, then must you own up to them as if you said them yourself?
Stop being foolish idiots. The site you quoted is a community blog. Anyone can post anything. And the remarks were removed. Isn't that what you would do if someone said something scurilous?
If I state that Lurker uses the Koran for toilet paper, it doesn't mean that Jameel agrees with that. (You don't, Lurker, do you?)
Oh, and the difference between the site you buffoons are quoting and you ? At least that racist wasn't "anonymous."
Let's see how quickly you can delete this one......

Anonymous said...

Lurker - How did you know that the "anti-blasphemer" was DB?

Ooops ... I don't know anything for sure! I just had tabs with this blog and DB's blog open at the same time, and it sort of looked like his style, and got mixed up where and what I was responding to.

Mark

Lurker said...

Anonymous: The site you quoted is a community blog. Anyone can post anything.

Wrong. Anyone cannot post anything -- quite to the contrary. That claim has been proven false, completely and thoroughly.

Did you even bother reading my previous comments? Since it appears that you haven't, I will repeat myself for your benefit:

The above spin-control nonsense collapses completely after one sees what actually happened when someone tried posting some material on the Obama site that Obama's blog police didn't like -- as Israpundit discovered, and as JoeSettler cited above: As an experiment, Israpundit put up a blog posting on the site containing excerpts from Barack Obama's book Dreams From My Father, and from Michelle Obama's doctoral thesis -- that Obama's people would prefer not be seen.

The posting was deleted, and an email threatening to deactivate the account was sent -- all within five minutes.

The sick antisemitic post we cited here, however, was up for almost a year.


Please, take the time to read Israpundit's full post.

Do you get it now? The excuse you offered for the antisemitism on Obama's site is wrong: Anyone cannot post anything -- if someone posts something that casts Obama in a negative light, then it is removed immediately, and the poster's account will be deleted. Antisemitic hate literature, on the other hand, can be posted (and has been), will pass the strict screening of Obama's web police, and will be allowed to remain there for months.

If you're going to continue to run spin control for hate literature on Obama's website, then at least try to avoid using debunked claims that have already been exposed as completely false.

Lurker said...

Anonymous: Now, I realize that you would like to delete remarks one and three and perhaps find a way to confirm the validity of number 2...

Actually, you realize very little at all. The fact that you labor under the misconception that this blog seeks to promote and defend Benjamin Netanyahu demonstrates two things:

(1) You don't read this blog very much.

(2) You subconsciously project your own idolization of Barack Obama upon other people, who -- in your erroneous imagination -- idolize their own political leaders in a similar manner.

Lurker said...

Anonymous: ...it sort of looked like his style...

Yeah, I got that impression too.

Shmilda said...

Just for fun, I left the link in a comment submitted for http://www.njdc.org/blog/post/schiffnaziscomment#

Who thinks the comment will be published?

The back of the hill said...

Shmilda,
As of 5:36 PM Westcoast time that comment has not been published.

And to everyone,

This link is interesting:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/search?q=Israel

So is this link:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/search?q=Jews

Please remember that by many in Europe nowadays, Obama is little more than 'Bush lite' - their hatred for America and Americans seemingly knows no reasonable bounds - and that the Arabs so far don't seem to have taken up the ball that Obama has thrown them. Obama, to the Arabs, is no more than a puppet of the Jews (which is how they view every American president - the function brings that reputation with it).

No American politician (except for probably Cynthia McKinney and Barbara Lee) thinks that the Arabs will ever be more than oil-salesmen.

Columnists and pundits, on the other hand, are ready to declare any Arab leader who refrains from sounding homicidal for a week to be the next messiah.
Longterm relationships consist of far more than sweet words.

And for those who are convinced that Obama is a commie, I suggest that you cruise through some of the Indymedia sites. Many on the leftward fringe are convinced that he is an arch-rightwinger, differing from Bush only by hue and a talent for subtlety.
And subtlety, as everyone knows, is one of those 'Jewish' characteristics........

Orange and Black said...

Dear Anonymous,

The only proof you are offering is that you are an idiot.
Can you truly not see the difference between an idiot such as yourself leaving a stupid COMMENT up on a blog (where the blog owner will surely let it stay to shows how stupid you are), and a moderator letting a guest blogger post a racist article by an unequivocally racist blogger, and then keep it up there, while removing other posts they actually find offensive?

Anonymous said...

do you dweebs feel your grip on our nads weakening?

Lurker said...

Anonymous: do you dweebs feel your grip on our nads weakening?

Ah, yes, I was waiting for something like that. The classic diversionary, nonsensical, sputtering response from a frothing-at-the-mouth leftist who has nothing of substance left to say because his actual "arguments" have been exposed as false and baseless.

Thanks for not disappointing.

The back of the hill said...

do you dweebs feel your grip on our nads weakening?

I wouldn't touch your nads with a ten foot pole. I suggest that you are the only one who would. Perhaps you should loosen your grip - there may be other deviants in your family who want a go at them.

----------------

By the way, Lurker, I also am a Leftist.
The word you meant was 'idiot'.
There are idiots on both the leftward and rightward fringe. Their contribution to the discourse, while repulsive (and drenched in nad terminologies) is scarcely worth taking seriously. Beyond the Peoples Republic of Berkeley they hardly count.

Lurker said...

To BOTH:

To be fair, I didn't simply say "leftist"; I said "frothing-at-the-mouth leftist".

Nevertheless, your point is taken. I did not intend for my brush to tar all people with leftist views; it would have been better had I said "idiot".

Anonymous said...

you dweebs are so funny. you dweebs have enjoyed american support for so long that you actually expect our president's loyalty to you.

do you dweebs really think that we are going to continue to ignore your belligerent behavior?

the writing is on the wall, dweebs.

oh yeah......

idiots got it all over dweebs, because even idiots can find their way home.

JoeSettler said...

Wasn't the phrase you used earlier "frothing-at-the-mouth".

Dead on.

The back of the hill said...

Not only frothing. Gibberant too.
And ignorant of the meaning and derivation of the word 'dweeb'.

I apologize for the failures of our school system. Kiliaan is apparently never mentioned.

Benji Lovitt said...

The best president since Kennedy??? Wow. I vote Democrat but that's baseless. Umm, he's been in office 9 months. Let's wait till he actually accomplishes something.

Anonymous said...

Reasonable readers of the world, unite.
Do yourselves a favor.
You don't have to be left, right, or centrist.
This blog is quoting a community blog to prove that Barack Obama is a racist and equates Jews with Nazis.
Did he write that?
Are there quotes of the President that support this point of view?
No and no.
So there is really only one thing left to do...
STOP READING THIS STUPID BLOG!!!!
If you believe in anything reasonable, then vote with your feet (or computer in this case).
Read a site that is more reasonable.
They hate President Obama. That's their choice. But if you don't, or you just want to read something that isn't kookoo, then click elsewhere.
Read a site that isn't anonymous. Use your brains.
Goodbye Jameel.

JoeSettler said...

Where do we say that Barack Obama is a a racist and equates Jews with Nazis?

Please quote me that sentence.

What we CLEARLY said was that the official Barack Obama community site and project of the Democratic National Committee permitted Nazi drivel on their site and the site moderators saw no problem with it, Meanwhile Israpundit showed that anti-Obama remarks are quickly removed and users banned from the same site.

Use your brains. Learn to read.

Anonymous said...

you dweebs didn't come out and "say" it, because you dweebs don't have nads.

but what you said, "implied it."

here you go dweeb.

"While I'm sure that line provides good legal cover and distance, is anti-Semitic Nazi drivel like this really what Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee really want to be seen as representing?

(Maybe?)

Regardless of the disclaimer, these are people they've chosen to associate with and allow to post on their blog."

Now you are making claims that "Israpundit showed that anti-Obama remarks are quickly removed and users banned from the same site."

how do you dweebs know whether or not someone was "banned?"

and how do you know that the article was removed because of you dweebs?

and what was wrong with the article, anyway?

it stated the truth.

oh yeah, that's right. you dweebs don't like letting the truth out, because you want to continue with your facade of being God's Chosen Ones.

of course, no one would continue believeing that lie, if they knew what you have done.

so you guys invented the term "anti-semitism" to use againt anyone who told the truth about the nation of dweebs.

The back of the hill said...

Waaah, Anonymous is anti-Dweeb, waaah!

He's also repititious and not very smart. Kinda boring.

Sorry Anonymous, no banana for you!

JoeSettler said...

BOTH: and what was wrong with the article, anyway? it stated the truth.

Anonymous is also an anti-Semite. And he admits it outright.

I think a banana is too high up on the evolutionary chain for him.

American Jewish said...

I bet the antisemitic loser with the inferiority complex is actually the "Polish American" who wrote the post.

Anonymous said...

funny......the only thing you dweebs can come back with is an accusiation that I'm anti-semitic, even though I stated it, and am quite proud of it.

you dweebs also indicated your attitudes about your own ancestry versus mine, with your banana joke. I loved it, because it shows that you dweebs are dumber than idiots.

do you dweebs really think that God is going to get anybody for being anti-semitic? is that why your only comeback is this?

according to he prophets (which you dweebs ignore), God is anti-semiti, too.

that's why your precious Jerusalem is going to burn, right along with the rest of your pathetic nation of dweeb.

The back of the hill said...

BOTH: and what was wrong with the article, anyway? it stated the truth.

Eh, Joe, say what? It was glaringly obvious that he was an anti-Semite..... ignorance usually is one of the diseases of that ilk.
To coin a phrase, his type wouldn't know the emmes if it came up and bit him in the tuchus.

Anonymous said...

sure, "he" knows the enemy. the enemy desires to cover up their BS, and whine about other people's.

they are a bunch of dweebs, who always whine the same way.

"mommy, those anti-semites don't like me"

Anonymous said...

Anybody can post on that site, anybody, and they can post anything. Now, somebody might moderate it and take it down, but I'm guessing the moderation is pretty light and centered around people complaining. Hence the page immediately disappearing after it was discovered by the Israel blogs.

I voted for Obama knowing his stance on Israel was not my favorite. At the same time, I'm not paranoid like some of you.

Lurker said...

Anonymous: Anybody can post on that site, anybody, and they can post anything. Now, somebody might moderate it and take it down, but I'm guessing the moderation is pretty light...

Once again, this is wrong. Anyone cannot post anything -- quite to the contrary. That claim has been proven false, completely and thoroughly.

Since you also don't seem to have bothered reading my previous comments, I will repeat myself (again) for your benefit:

The above spin-control nonsense collapses completely after one sees what actually happened when someone tried posting some material on the Obama site that Obama's blog police didn't like -- as Israpundit discovered, and as JoeSettler cited above: As an experiment, Israpundit put up a blog posting on the site containing excerpts from Barack Obama's book Dreams From My Father, and from Michelle Obama's doctoral thesis -- that Obama's people would prefer not be seen.

The posting was deleted, and an email threatening to deactivate the account was sent -- all within five minutes.

The sick antisemitic post we cited here, however, was up for almost a year.

Please, take the time to read Israpundit's full post.

Do you get it now? The excuse you offered for the antisemitism on Obama's site is wrong: Anyone cannot post anything on that site -- if someone posts something that casts Obama in a negative light, then it is removed immediately, and the poster's account will be deleted. Antisemitic hate literature, on the other hand, can be posted (and has been), will pass the strict screening of Obama's web police, and will be allowed to remain there for months.

If you're going to continue to run spin control for hate literature on Obama's website, then at least try to avoid using debunked claims that have already been exposed as completely false.


Anonymous: Hence the page immediately disappearing after it was discovered by the Israel blogs.

Uh-huh. And why was it only taken down "after it was discovered by the Israel blogs"? Why wasn't it taken down immediately? As Israpundit proved, their moderators vet everything that is posted there the instant it goes up, and they immediately delete anything with which they have a problem -- and even throw the poster off the site. The fact that they did not do any such thing with the piece of antisemitic filth that we cited, and allowed it to remain for almost a year, shows that Obama's people had no problem with it.

Anonymous said...

"The fact that they did not do any such thing with the piece of antisemitic filth that we cited, and allowed it to remain for almost a year, shows that Obama's people had no problem with it."

of course they "had no problem with it." duh

Obama was letting you dweebs know that you don't own him, or us, anymore.

"The party's over."

Anonymous said...

"The party's over."

Damn straight. Its about time to world started listening; Israel has, and will always be an occupying, corrupt power that has stolen the Palestinian homeland.

Even if Obama didn't write it himself, I agree with every single word that was on his website.

And that's why Obama won a Nobel prize. For having the guts to stand up to Israel and the Jew-run media.

The Nazi-Israel article should not have been removed due to stupid pressure from the likes of this zionist blog.

Ha Ha Ha said...

Polish Putz is Pissed Because he was Banned from Barry's Blog!

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