Wednesday, November 04, 2009

The difference between a Jewish terrorist and Arab terrorists

by Lurker

Dr. Aaron Lerner of IMRA summed it up very well, so I will simply quote him:

Here's the difference:

  • Yaakov Teitel will have his day in Israeli court and, if convicted, spend a good part of the remainder of his life behind bars.

  • Prime Minister Netanyahu isn't asking for Jewish terrorist Yaakov Teitel to be freed.

  • There are no Israeli security forces planning to capture Palestinians to trade for Yaakov Teitel's release.

  • The Israeli school system isn't teaching that Yaakov Teitel is a hero.

  • No summer camp sponsored by a leading Israeli political party is going to be named after Yaakov Teitel.

  • Yaakov Teitel's family isn't going to get a monthly stipend from the Government of Israel as a sign of thanks for his actions.

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8 comments:

The back of the hill said...

What, no anonymous TelAvivan comments?

No ultra-left disputing this?

Commenter Abbi said...

Well, I'm from Ranaana, but some of these just don't make a lot of sense.

Like number 2 would make more sense if Teitel was committing acts of terror in the name of some supposed higher cause that Bibi also supported (like Pal terrorists). But Bibi doesn't support extreme settlers so it's no great chiddush that he isn't calling for his release.

And also number three doesn't make a lot of sense either. The Palestinians aren't holding Teitel. Why would capturing Palestinians help his cause, even if they did want to "free" him?

Yes, number 4 is true, because Teitel is from an extreme fringe group.

You're comparing Pal terrorists that enjoy the full backing of their people, their leaders and security forces with Teitel, who enjoys none of that. So, again, no great chiddush that the IDF isn't capturing terrorists or the gov't isn't sending him money.

I get what the author is trying to do, showing how Israel doesn't have the terrorist culture that Palestinians have. But it would be better if it actually made logical sense.

Ethan said...

I'm the "anonymous Tel-Avivian" (although I dont live in Tel Aviv) that you're referring to - Back of the Hill - the OP makes some valid points, but you can read my talkback from the "jooonabomber" post to see that sympathy with terrorists such as Baruch Goldstein and Eden Natan Zada is not rare among prominent people in the settler community such as Noam Federman and Baruch Marzel - and for the most part, these people are covered positively in the "mainstream" settler media such as arutz sheva.

Thank god they are more rare on the Jewish side.

Jameel @ The Muqata said...

Ethan: This blog isnt Arutz Sheva, and you would hard pressed to find any praise here for those mention in your comment.

You should know the settler community and mindset is hardly monolith, and lumping everyone together does a grave disservice.

Unless of course, you think all of Tel Aviv thinks the same way (I dont, and I've written that here before).

E said...

Well thats very interesting Jameel - I appreciate you taking the time to let me know that - I like this blog because it does give a different perspective that attempts to be rooted in a coherent, ratioinal, and logical perspective. I do question some of my assumptions as well after reading your responses.

Jameel @ The Muqata said...

Hi E -- as an FYI, my particular yishuv is about as heterogenious as you can get.

We have secular and religious residents...including non-Jews, and even a few Arabs(!)

In the last election, people voted everywhere from Ichud Leumi to Hadash...and while everyone has a different viewpoint, we still try to get along with each other.

In any event - thanks for dropping by; the blog has a variety of viewpoints (and we accept guest posts as well :-)

Regards,

Jameel

The back of the hill said...

I'm the "anonymous Tel-Avivian" (although I dont live in Tel Aviv) that you're referring to - Back of the Hill - the OP makes some valid points, but you can read my talkback from the "jooonabomber" post to see that sympathy with terrorists such as Baruch Goldstein and Eden Natan Zada is not rare among prominent people in the settler community such as Noam Federman and Baruch Marzel - and for the most part, these people are covered positively in the "mainstream" settler media such as arutz sheva.

Howdy Ethan,

Arutz Sheva is 'mainstream'? Well, I shan't debate that assertion, but will merely remark that I read both Arutz Sheva AND Ha'aretz. Some of my associates refuse to read one or the other. For predictably reasons.
I have found little sympathy for Baruch Goldstein or ENZ among rational people (the majority, also among the settlers and their supporters).
It's a good benchmark - anyone who expresses admiration for either of those two is probably someone we want to keep away from the megaphone, the press, the internet, and impressionable children - we've gotten rather good at isolating such people at our actions in the Bay Area. They do not represent the mainstream of Judaism, Zionism, or pro-Israel activism in SF.

Thank god they are more rare on the Jewish side.

Omeyn ve omeyn.

E said...

we've gotten rather good at isolating such people at our actions in the Bay Area. They do not represent the mainstream of Judaism, Zionism, or pro-Israel activism in SF.

Thats important. I imagine its hard enough in the Bay Area with all the Jews against Zionism and other Berkeley loonytoons running around.

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