As the Chalk Leader for my flight home from Afghanistan, I witnessed the following:Profiling works.
When we were on our way back from Afghanistan, we flew out of Baghram Air Field. We went through customs at BAF, full body scanners (no groping), had all of our bags searched, the whole nine yards.
Our first stop was Shannon, Ireland to refuel. After that, we had to stop at Indianapolis, Indiana to drop off about 100 folks from the Indiana National Guard. That’s where the stupid started.
First, everyone was forced to get off the plane–even though the plane wasn’t refueling again. All 330 people got off that plane, rather than let the 100 people from the ING get off. We were filed from the plane to a holding area. No vending machines, no means of escape. Only a male/female latrine.
It’s probably important to mention that we were ALL carrying weapons. Everyone was carrying an M4 Carbine (rifle) and some, like me, were also carrying an M9 pistol. Oh, and our gunners had M-240B machine guns. Of course, the weapons weren’t loaded. And we had been cleared of all ammo well before we even got to customs at Baghram, then AGAIN at customs.
The TSA personnel at the airport seriously considered making us unload all of the baggage from the SECURE cargo hold to have it reinspected. Keep in mind, this cargo had been unpacked, inspected piece by piece by U.S. Customs officials, resealed and had bomb-sniffing dogs give it a one-hour run through. After two hours of sitting in this holding area, the TSA decided not to reinspect our Cargo–just to inspect us again: Soldiers on the way home from war, who had already been inspected, reinspected and kept in a SECURE holding area for 2 hours. Ok, whatever. So we lined up to go through security AGAIN.
This is probably another good time to remind you all that all of us were carrying actual assault rifles, and some of us were also carrying pistols.
So we’re in line, going through one at a time. One of our Soldiers had his Gerber multi-tool. TSA confiscated it. Kind of ridiculous, but it gets better. A few minutes later, a guy empties his pockets and has a pair of nail clippers. Nail clippers. TSA informs the Soldier that they’re going to confiscate his nail clippers. The conversation went something like this:
TSA Guy: You can’t take those on the plane.
Soldier: What? I’ve had them since we left country.
TSA Guy: You’re not suppose to have them.
TSA Guy: They can be used as a weapon.
Soldier: [touches butt stock of the rifle] But this actually is a weapon. And I’m allowed to take it on.
TSA Guy: Yeah but you can’t use it to take over the plane. You don’t have bullets.
Soldier: And I can take over the plane with nail clippers?
TSA Guy: [awkward silence]
Me: Dude, just give him your damn nail clippers so we can get the f**k out of here. I’ll buy you a new set.
Soldier: [hands nail clippers to TSA guy, makes it through security]
This might be a good time to remind everyone that approximately 233 people re-boarded that plane with assault rifles, pistols, and machine guns–but nothing that could have been used as a weapon.
Stupid TSA tactics like this, including the "opt-out" uber-pat-down-molest-grope, do not.
Here is a video of the TSA patting down a now shirtless boy:
And a TSA agent was recently arrested for rape of a 14 year old girl:
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I think it's from living in Israel for 10 years already, but Americans are just dumb. In general. I think there are smart ones around, but it seems like a good chunk just don't have the brainpower to find their way out of a paper bag.
I'd have to agree Abbi. As evidence, I cite the one who was elected president... How stupid would you have to be to vote for him? I suspect the TSA is staffed mostly by Obama voters.
Right, and the politicians and politics in Israel are sterling examples of brilliance in action? Please, making broad generalizations about any group like that one about all Americans are dumb is, well just plain dumb. And it invites return jabs. I'm sure you would agree whole heartedly that all Israelis are stubborn, rude and arrogant?
I'd also like to point out that it was at Ben Gurion airport that I was stopped during a security inspection over a container of mixed pills that I was carrying in my purse, along with two lipsticks. The person doing the inspection poked a pen into the two lipsticks to make sure nothing was hidden in them, thus ruining the lipsticks. She was also going to confiscate the pills, which looked suspicious to her, but she stopped when I put one of the pills in my mouth and swallowed it.
I might agree with a statement that says that airport security personnel are not taken from the highest intellectual ranks.
The TSA did what to a girl? Where? In the airport, while 'patting' her? When you make women strip down, it is bound to do something to American men!
I'm sorry but I'm having trouble believing this story is true. How can anybody, even a TSA agent, be so incredibly stupid?
Also, I think it's been a few years that nail clippers are allowed again so IF this story did happen it wasn't recently
All -- ProfK is totally correct.
Please, making broad generalizations about any group like that one about all Americans are dumb is, well just plain dumb. And it invites return jabs. I'm sure you would agree whole heartedly that all Israelis are stubborn, rude and arrogant?
American's aren't dumb. Its just very unfortunate that TSA workers are usually at the low end of the education scale...and are usually making just above minimum wage. If not at the TSA, they could probably be flipping burgers at McDonalds.
Israel isn't perfect...and our security precautions can be rather invasive for non-Israelis at times.
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