Thursday, June 04, 2009

The Barbary Pirates

Note: Jameel is imposing a moratorium on anti-Obama posts, while thinks about how to expand his home.

(The rest here is by JoeSettler)

Unbelievable. I don't even know where to begin in fisking Obama's speech. But let's start here:

"know, too, that Islam has always been a part of America's story. The first nation to recognize my country was Morocco. In signing the Treaty of Tripoli in 1796, our second President John Adams wrote: "The United States has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Muslims."


What was the Treaty of Tripoli?

It was a treaty signed with the Arabs of Tripoli (and Algiers and Morocco) to get them to stop hijacking and attacking US ships - also known as piracy.

In 1801-1805 the US fought the Barbary Wars with these states who abrogated the treaty (except Morocco who did not break the treaty) and continued to attack and US ships .

In 1801, the Pasha of Tripoli tried to raise the price for not attacking US vessels (if I recall correctly, the US was paying 1 million dollars a year in extortion bills at that point).

President Jefferson, instead of giving in to the extortion (and continuing attacks) sent over a frigate and destroyed a Tripolitan ship. This was the first of many pirate ships the US destroyed.

This war ended in 1805, when for the first time in history the United States flag was raised in victory on foreign soil (Occupation). If you ever heard of the Marine Hymn then you would recognize the line — "to the shores of Tripoli".

Of course this only lasted for a little while when Algiers decided to start again, resulting in the Second Barbary War.

So when Obama says that the Muslims have a long history with the US, I was wondering if he meant piracy, ransoms, hostage taking, treaty abrogation, and terrorism (then known as piracy).

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ZionTimes said...

Although I really enjoy your posts, and having a lot of repect for the Muqata, I have to update you on US History.

1. On Jul 11, 1786 - Morocco agreed to stop attacking American ships in the Mediterranean for a payment of $10,000.

2. In 1787 Morocco became the first country to recognize the US as a sovereign nation. Pres. Washington acknowledged Morocco’s recognition in 1789.

The recognition of the US, was probably due to the ransom paid to Morocco. That tidbit has been lost in history.

Lawrence Konigsberg

Anonymous said...

As an aside, from a letter from John Adams to Mordecai Noah, a New York editor (we controlled the media in the 19th century as well):
"I have had occasion to be acquainted with several gentlemen of your nation [the Jews] and to transact business with some of them, whom I found to be men of as liberal minds, as much as honor, probity, generosity, and good breeding as any I have known in any seat of religion or philosophy.
I wish your nation to be admitted to all the privileges of citizens in every country in the world. This country has done much, I wish it may do more, and annul every narrow idea in religion, government, and commerce."

JoeSettler said...


Quite correct. Protection Money even then.

NormanF said...

Our good friend Jameel is right to call a moratorium - why pay attention to a lot of words that have no import. As Koheleth said: "there is no new under the sun." As it transpired today. Its a time to build!

Jack Steiner said...

From the Halls of Montezuma...

Anonymous said...

For a great read on the subject, read:

Victory in Tripoli: How America's War with the Barbary Pirates Established the U.S. Navy and Shaped a Nation

Gila said...

Well, let's hope the Muslims don't pick up on this.

JoeSettler said...

"and since our founding, American Muslims have enriched the United States. They ...won Nobel prizes"
-Barack Obama

Sure they did...

...except that only 5 Muslims appear to have ever won the prize, and none were American.

Jameel - please remove the moratorium. There's too much material here going to waste.

JoeSettler said...

Correction. One was American - Ahmed Hassan Zewail.

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