Saturday, September 26, 2009

Will Goldstone believe anything?

Makor Rishon had a strange article in the paper this weekend. I’ve looked around the internet, and there seems to be a lot of confirmation that this story is true, and it doesn’t say much for Goldstone's credibility as an investigator of war crimes.

From 1994 until 1996 Goldstone was the head Prosecutor at the Office of the Prosecutor (OTP) for the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia in the UN.

It seems that the Prosecutor’s office had a case of mistaken identity, and the person linked to this mistake was Goldstone himself.

In 1995 the ICTY prosecutor’s office listed a certain Serb named Gruban as a serious war criminal. Very serious. They had a lot of details of his war crimes.

Here is a link to the text of Goldstone’s indictment against Gruban. The ICTY PDF is here.






Richard J. Goldstone, Prosecutor of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia, pursuant to his authority under Article 18 of the Statute of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia ("The Statute of the Tribunal"), charges:


But in 1998 the ICTY dropped all charges against the above named Gruban.

The Hague, 8 May 1998
On 5 May and 8 May respectively, Judge VOHRAH and Judge RIAD granted the leave requested by the Office of the Prosecutor to withdraw the charges against 14 accused in the Omarska and Keraterm indictments:

The charges against the following 11 accused in the Omarska indictment are withdrawn: Zdravko GOVEDARICA, GRUBAN, Predrag KOSTIC, Nedeljko PASPALJ, Milan PAVLIC, Milutin POPOVIC, Drazenko PREDOJEVIC, Zeljko SAVIC, Mirko BABIC, Nikica JANJIC and Dragomir SAPONJA

Now this Gruban is not to be confused with Momcilo Gruban who was imprisoned in 2002 and is also mentioned in that first document and indictment.

the charges are maintained against 5 accused who are still at large, namely Zeljko MEAKIC (the alleged Omarska camp commander, who is charged with genocide), Dragoljub PRCAC (one of the two alleged deputy commanders), Milojica KOS and Momcilo GRUBAN (one the three alleged guards shift commanders) and Du{an KNEZEVIC (one of the five persons who allegedly visited the camp to commit atrocities).

There are two Grubans here and this Gruban is obviously a different Gruban entirely than the one who had the charges against him dropped.

So who was this “Gruban” who turned out to be completely innocent?

Well his full name is Gruban Malić.

Gruban Malić is a very well known character in Serbia.

And a character he is.

Gruban Malic’ is a fictional character in the book “Hero on a Donkey” written by Miodrag Bulatović'.

Not to comment at all on that war, but Goldstone fell for a joke someone pulled on him and his court. All the Serbs were laughing at how stupid he and his court was. It certainly destroyed any credibility they might have had for the court.

Sound familiar?

Is this any different then what happened in Gaza?

The Gazans of Pallywood told Goldstone stories which he willingly and unquestioning swallowed up whole, and spit back at us.

Like in Serbia, the Gazans are laughing at him while Goldstone uses their lies to attack Israel.

What is more interesting is that besides in Serbia, in the office of the ICTY this embarrassing mistake was apparently well known, and of course it wasn't publicized outword, instead they tried to basically cover up Goldstone's mistake by "dropping the charges".

That's a shame about the coverup, because certainly everyone should remember to associate Richard Goldstone's name with the Serbian war criminal Gruban Malic' - and his donkey.

Now, is it any wonder why Goldstone was sent to Gaza to investigate Israel for war crimes?

He's the perfect dupe!

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jean frankel tries to murder me of ideas for action llc said...

Serbia To Shortly Ascend to the EU Says SPAIN.

Irrefutable Proof ICTY Is Corrupt Court/Irrefutable Proof the Hague Court Cannot
Legitimately Prosecute Karadzic Case

This legal technicality indicates the Hague must dismiss charges against Dr karadzic and
others awaiting trials in the Hague jail; like it or not.

Unfortunately for the Signatures Of the Rome Statute United Nations member states
instituting the ICC & ICTY housed at the Hague, insofar as the, Radovan Karadzic, as
with the other Hague cases awaiting trial there, I personally witnessed these United
Nations member states openly speaking about trading judicial appointments and verdicts
for financial funding when I attended the 2001 ICC Preparatory Meetings at the UN in
Manhattan making the iCTY and ICC morally incapable trying Radovan Karazdic and

I witnessed with my own eyes and ears when attending the 2001 Preparatory Meetings to
establish an newly emergent International Criminal Court, the exact caliber of criminal
corruption running so very deeply at the Hague, that it was a perfectly viable topic of
legitimate conversation in those meetings I attended to debate trading verdicts AND
judicial appointments, for monetary funding.

Jilly wrote:*The rep from Spain became distraught and when her country’s proposal was
not taken to well by the chair of the meeting , then Spain argued in a particularly loud
and noticably strongly vocal manner, “Spain (my country) strongly believes if we
contribute most financial support to the Hague’s highest court, that ought to give us and
other countries feeding it financially MORE direct power over its

((((((((((((((((((((((((( ((((((((((((((((((((((((( Instead of censoring the country representative
from Spain for even bringing up this unjust, illegal and unfair judicial idea of bribery for
international judicial verdicts and judicial appointments, all country representatives
present in the meeting that day all treated the Spain proposition as a ”totally legitimate
topic” discussed and debated it between each other for some time. I was quite shocked!
The idea was "let's discuss it." "It's a great topic to discuss."

Some countries agreed with Spain’s propositions while others did not. The point here is,
bribery for judicial verdicts and judicial appointments was treated as a totally legitimate
topic instead of an illegitimate toic which it is in the meeting that I
attended in 2001 that day to establish the ground work for a newly emergent
international criminal court.))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

In particular., since "Spain" was so overtly unafraid in bringing up this topic of trading
financial funding the ICC for influence over its future judicial appointments and verdicts
in front of every other UN member state present that day at the UN, "Spain" must have
already known by previous experience the topic of bribery was "socially acceptable" for
conversation that day. They must have previously spoke about bribing the ICTY and ICC
before in meetings; this is my take an international sociological honor student.

SPAIN's diplomatic gesture of international justice insofar as, Serbia, in all of this is,
disgusting morally!


NormanF said...

Goldstone was chosen because he's a Jew and an attack on Israel would a lot nore convincing if it came from a Jew. It resulted in just the opposite reaction in Israel.

Stewart Mills said...

The above commentary is an unsuccessful attempt to smear the Goldstone Report.

Goldstone is a proud Zionist and great friend of Israel. It is because of this love that he wants to see Israel responsibly use power and protect the human dignity for all.

Goldstone agrees that Israel has a right to self-defence. His concern is on situations when the violence used was disproportionate to the outcome sought. He cited cases for this for both sides.

What intrigues me is why does it take 262 pages to establish a prima facie case that Israel may have conducted a breach of international law while it only took 19 pages of evidence to establish a case for identifying Palestinians as having breached?

Sadly, people don’t get this when they read the report. They are too busy trying to deny that their side could do any wrong. At the end of the day that is all Goldstone said. Side A you have acted wrongly, side B you have acted wrongly. Set up investigations, prosecute and make sure you do better next time.

Stewart Mills
Sydney, Australia

Kamagra said...

i woud like to be like Makor Rishon because he is a very intelligent person, but i do not like his ideologies because he want to attack israel.

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